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Message-ID: <CAGXu5jJ71tM99uaRoq74AkcB5KhxsfBS3NyDuJ2rJncKmfCWwg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 6 Jan 2015 12:14:48 -0800
From:	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To:	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>
Cc:	Oded Gabbay <oded.gabbay@....com>, Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
	Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@...il.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Dana Elifaz <Dana.Elifaz@....com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Maling list - DRI developers 
	<dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
	Alexander Deucher <Alexander.Deucher@....com>,
	LKP ML <lkp@...org>
Subject: Re: [LKP] [PATCH] drm/radeon: Try to init amdkfd only if 64 bit kernel

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au> wrote:
> Oded Gabbay <oded.gabbay@....com> writes:
>> On 12/24/2014 01:01 AM, Rusty Russell wrote:
>>> Oded Gabbay <oded.gabbay@....com> writes:
>>>> I didn't say it doesn't always work.
>>>> The actual thing that doesn't work is the define symbol_get and only in a
>>>> specific case of 32bit kernel AND CONFIG_MODULES is unset AND
>>>> CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_BASE is set.
>>>> The define in that case is:
>>>> #define symbol_get(x) ({ extern typeof(x) x __attribute__((weak)); &(x); })
>>>>
>>>> Why it doesn't work (doesn't return NULL when symbol doesn't exists) ?
>>>
>>> Hmm, I'd guess CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_BASE is relocating NULL symbols...
>>>
>>> No, I can't reproduce this.  Please send your .config privately.
>>>
>>> Here's my test case:
>>>
>>> diff --git a/init/main.c b/init/main.c
>>> index 61b993767db5..a3ee1ec97ec3 100644
>>> --- a/init/main.c
>>> +++ b/init/main.c
>>> @@ -683,6 +683,12 @@ asmlinkage __visible void __init start_kernel(void)
>>>
>>>      ftrace_init();
>>>
>>> +    {
>>> +            extern void nonexistent_fn(void);
>>> +            printk("symbol_get(nonexistent_fn) = %p\n",
>>> +                   symbol_get(nonexistent_fn));
>>> +    }
>>> +
>>>      /* Do the rest non-__init'ed, we're now alive */
>>>      rest_init();
>>>   }
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rusty.
>>>
>> Hi Rusty,
>>
>> Attached is the bad config file. (config-bad)
>> I have narrowed the changes you need to do to the config file in order to
>> reproduce this bug.
>> The base assumption is a 32-bit kernel and without modules support. Rest of the
>> config file is pretty standard, IMO.
>> Then, its not enough to enable CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_BASE like I wrote in my original
>> post. You need also to unset CONFIG_HIBERNATION.
>
> Indeed, thanks; your config breaks as reported.  With CONFIG_HIBERNATION
> the kernel offset is 0, so we don't see this.
>
> Kees, as far as I can tell you need another 0-terminated vmlinux.relocs
> section for weak symbols.  These should not be relocated if already 0.

A few questions:

Why doesn't this break on 32-bit without kASLR? 32-bit does relocation
by default, even without CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_BASE.

Are there any symbols that are NULL that aren't weak? I'd expect all
strong symbols to have non-zero offsets, but I must be
misunderstanding something here.

-Kees

>
> Put this somewhere to test.  It fails for x86_64, too:
>
> diff --git a/init/main.c b/init/main.c
> index 61b993767db5..c9e0195c792a 100644
> --- a/init/main.c
> +++ b/init/main.c
> @@ -683,6 +683,12 @@ asmlinkage __visible void __init start_kernel(void)
>
>         ftrace_init();
>
> +       {
> +               extern void __attribute__((weak)) nonexistent_fn(void);
> +               printk("nonexistent_fn = %p\n", nonexistent_fn);
> +               BUG_ON(nonexistent_fn != NULL);
> +       }
> +
>         /* Do the rest non-__init'ed, we're now alive */
>         rest_init();
>  }
>
> Cheers,
> Rusty.



-- 
Kees Cook
Chrome OS Security
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