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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 09:57:38 -0800
From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
Matt Fleming <matt.fleming@...el.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@...e.de>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 04/11] x86,fpu: defer FPU restore until return to userspace
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com> wrote:
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> On 01/13/2015 12:18 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On 01/11, riel@...hat.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Defer restoring the FPU state, if so desired, until the task
>>>> returns to userspace.
>>>
>>> And I have another concern.
>>>
>>> Afaocs with this patch the idle threads will run with
>>> TIF_LOAD_FPU set but without fpu.has_fpu.
>>
>> Yuck. IMO there are still too many possible states.
>>
>> AFAICS the sensible states for a task are:
>>
>> - Task is current on some cpu and FPU is loaded into that cpu. -
>> Task is current on some cpu and FPU is in memory. - Task is current
>> on some cpu and FPU is loaded into a different cpu.
>
> When switching a task out, in prepare_fpu_switch() we will always save
> the FPU state to memory. The third case can be treated identical to the
> second case.
Then what's last_cpu for?
>
>> - Task is not current and FPU is in memory. - Task is not current
>> and FPU is loaded into some cpu.
>
> Same for this one. When the task is not current, the FPU state
> will have been saved to memory. If we try running the task
> somewhere else, it devolves to "FPU is in memory".
>
Isn't there a case where the FPU is in memory *and* in the cpu regs?
Isn't that how you can skip reloading the FPU after going idle and
returning? Is this what fpu_lazy_restore is for? Confused.
>> Am I missing anything? (In lazy mode, there are a few more
>> involving CR0.TS.)
>>
>> That's five states, plus an optional cpu number. But we have tons
>> of state variable that can express all kinds of nonsense things.
>>
>> If we asserted that we were in a sensible state and fixed the
>> things that exited the sensible states, maybe this would be easier
>> to understand and debug.
>
> Lets see what things we could test, at different points.
>
> 1) At context switch time, we need to make sure that the previous task
> will no longer have __thread_has_fpu()
>
> 2) When loading the FPU state, we need to make sure that the current
> task does not have __thread_has_fpu()
Examples, any of which may be wrong:
If !current, then !TIF_LOAD_FPU
If switching out a task with TIF_LOAD_FPU set, then !has_fpu
If last_cpu == smp_processor_id(), then fpu_owner == fpu.
If has_fpu, then the task must be current somewhere and last_cpu must
be the cpu on which it's current.
At the very least, asking these questions may help fill in holes in my
understanding :)
--Andy
>
> 3) ... what else?
>
> - --
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Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC
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