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Message-ID: <20150114193332.GC24989@titan.lakedaemon.net>
Date:	Wed, 14 Jan 2015 14:33:32 -0500
From:	Jason Cooper <jason@...edaemon.net>
To:	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...e-electrons.com>
Cc:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@...el.com>,
	Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard <plagnioj@...osoft.com>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@...e-electrons.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@....com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@...eaurora.org>, devicetree@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] irqchip: Add DT binding doc for dumb demuxer
 chips

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 08:08:09PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> Hi Jason,
> 
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:56:19 -0500
> Jason Cooper <jason@...edaemon.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hey Boris,
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 09:52:07PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > > On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 14:00:50 -0500 Jason Cooper <jason@...edaemon.net> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 07:46:18PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > > > > Add documentation for the dumb demuxer.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...e-electrons.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  .../bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt   | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > >  1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
> > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt
> > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > index 0000000..1c777ef
> > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/interrupt-controller/dumb-demux.txt
> > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@
> > > > > +* Generic Dumb Interrupt Demultiplexer
> > > > > +
> > > > > +This Dumb demultiplixer simply forward all incoming interrupts to its
> > > > > +enabled/unmasked children.
> > > > 
> > > > Please forgive the potentially naïve question, but what hardware is this
> > > > describing?
> > > 
> > > That's not a real hardware per se, but on some hardware (like at91 SoCs)
> > > some IRQ line are shared by several peripherals, and this dumb
> > > demultiplex is here to represent such shared irq lines which cannot be
> > > easily demultiplexed (because they do not provide a 'cause'
> > > register).
> > > 
> > > You can see it as a virtual irqchip provided to address broken hardware
> > > designs.
> > 
> > Hmm.  Well, given tglx's recent reply, I suppose I'll *not* go down the
> > rabbit hole of "the DT is for describing hardware."  :-P
> 
> Actually I'm a bit surprised no one else already mentioned that :-) (I
> thought this would be the first complain regarding this dumb irq
> demux chip).
> 
> Anyway, IMHO, this can be considered as hardware description since
> these irq-lines are really multiplexed into a single one...

True, I think the issue is more that the DT node doesn't strictly
represent a block of IP.  We just need a way to make that clear in the
binding doc.

> > However, it would probably be a lot more palatable to the DT maintainers
> > if we at least change the compatible to prepend "linux,".  This way, if
> > someone does come up with a better solution down the road, it will be
> > much easier to deprecate the binding.
> > 
> > I would also be amenable to "virt,", or "hack,", or even
> > "work-around-piss-poor-hw,".  Basically, anything that would indicate to
> > consumers of the DT that this is not a true reflection of the hardware,
> > and that it may be superseded by a better solution later.
> 
> Actually I thought about changing it to "virtual,dumb-irq-demux" :-).

Works for me. :)

thx,

Jason.
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