linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] sched, x86: Prevent resched interrupts if task in kernel mode and !CONFIG

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Message-ID: <CALCETrWFZ94LxPA2X1OROVAbcossdUgFEWATbfbR3ogqNxARsw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:36:44 -0800
From:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:	Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@...allels.com>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] sched, x86: Prevent resched interrupts if task in kernel
 mode and !CONFIG_PREEMPT

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@...allels.com> wrote:
> В Пт, 23/01/2015 в 08:24 -0800, Andy Lutomirski пишет:
>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 06:53:32PM +0300, Kirill Tkhai wrote:
>> >> ---
>> >>  arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S |   10 ++++++++++
>> >>  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
>> >>
>> >> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S b/arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S
>> >> index c653dc4..a046ba8 100644
>> >> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S
>> >> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/entry_64.S
>> >> @@ -409,6 +409,13 @@ GLOBAL(system_call_after_swapgs)
>> >>       movq_cfi rax,(ORIG_RAX-ARGOFFSET)
>> >>       movq  %rcx,RIP-ARGOFFSET(%rsp)
>> >>       CFI_REL_OFFSET rip,RIP-ARGOFFSET
>> >> +#if !defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT) || !defined(SMP)
>> >> +     /*
>> >> +      * Tell resched_curr() do not send useless interrupts to us.
>> >> +      * Kernel isn't preemptible till sysret_careful() anyway.
>> >> +      */
>> >> +     LOCK ; bts $TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG,TI_flags+THREAD_INFO(%rsp,RIP-ARGOFFSET)
>> >> +#endif
>>
>> That's kind of expensive.  What's the !SMP part for?
>
> smp_send_reschedule() is NOP on UP. There is no problem.

Shouldn't it be #if !defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT) && defined(CONFIG_SMP) then?

>
>>
>> >>       testl $_TIF_WORK_SYSCALL_ENTRY,TI_flags+THREAD_INFO(%rsp,RIP-ARGOFFSET)
>> >>       jnz tracesys
>> >>  system_call_fastpath:
>> >> @@ -427,6 +434,9 @@ GLOBAL(system_call_after_swapgs)
>> >>   * Has incomplete stack frame and undefined top of stack.
>> >>   */
>> >>  ret_from_sys_call:
>> >> +#if !defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT) || !defined(SMP)
>> >> +     LOCK ; btr $TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG,TI_flags+THREAD_INFO(%rsp,RIP-ARGOFFSET)
>> >> +#endif
>>
>> If only it were this simple.  There are lots of ways out of syscalls,
>> and this is only one of them :(  If we did this, I'd rather do it
>> through the do_notify_resume mechanism or something.
>
> Yes, syscall is the only thing I did as an example.
>
>> I don't see any way to do this without at least one atomic op or
>> smp_mb per syscall, and that's kind of expensive.
>
> JFI, doesn't x86 set_bit() lock a small area of memory? I thought
> it's not very expensive on this arch (some bus optimizations or
> something like this).

An entire syscall on x86 is well under 200 cycles.  lock addl is >20
cycles for me, and I don't see why the atomic bitops would be faster.
(Oddly, mfence is slower than lock addl, which is really odd, since
lock addl implies mfence.)  So this overhead may actually matter.

>
>> Would it make sense to try to use context tracking instead?  On
>> systems that use context tracking, syscalls are already expensive, and
>> we're already keeping track of which CPUs are in user mode.
>
> I'll look at context_tracking, but I'm not sure some smp synchronization
> there.

It could be combinable with existing synchronization there.

--Andy
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