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Date:	Mon, 26 Jan 2015 23:02:03 +0000
From:	Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>
To:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16 v3] tracing: Add new file system tracefs

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 09:46:58PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 03:42:59PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 19:30:49 +0000
> > Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > > You are still fighting an inconvenient API, but now it's not debugfs one -
> > > it's your copy thereof.  Why not give your instances/ an inode_operations
> > > of its own?  One with ->mkdir() and ->rmdir(), leaving all other directories
> > > as-is.  That way you don't need the secondary methods at all.  And sure,
> > > debugfs_create_dir() grabs ->i_mutex on parent, making you drop that in
> > > your ->mkdir() if you want to call it.  But now you are not talking to it -
> > > just to your own code, where you are free to change the calling conventions,
> > > making it caller's responsibility to get that ->i_mutex.  The same goes for
> > > the rmdir side...
> > 
> > The vfs layer grabs the i_mutex, which needs to be dropped.
> 
> What for?  Just keep it through your instance_mkdir/instance_rmdir and be
> done with that.  Sure, it means that you need variants of file/directory
> creation/removal primitives that would assume that parent is already locked
> by caller (and would leave unlocking to the caller as well).  So add them...

BTW, could you merge vfs.git#debugfs_automount, rather than copy the commits
into your branch?  Bloody inconvenient as it is...
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