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Date:	Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:51:53 +0100
From:	Jacek Anaszewski <j.anaszewski@...sung.com>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-leds@...r.kernel.org, devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
	kyungmin.park@...sung.com, b.zolnierkie@...sung.com,
	cooloney@...il.com, rpurdie@...ys.net, sakari.ailus@....fi,
	s.nawrocki@...sung.com
Subject: Re: Reading /sys with side effects (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] Documentation:
 leds: Add description of LED Flash class extension)

Hi Pavel,

On 02/02/2015 02:51 PM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
>>> [Actually, you could _always_ do two reads on those devices, discard
>>> first result, and return the second. But I'm not sure how hardware
>>> will like that.]
>>
>> This would be the most sensible option.
>>
>>
>> However, let's analyze the typical use cases for flash strobing:
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Version without faults caching:
>>
>> ============
>> Driver side:
>> ============
>>
>> read_faults()
>> 	faults = read_i2c(); //read faults
>> 	if faults
>> 		write_i2c(); //clear faults, only for some devices
>> 		faults = read_i2c(); //read faults
>> 	return faults
>>
>> ================
>> User space side:
>> ================
>>
>> 1. faults = `cat flash_faults` //read_faults()
>> 2. if faults then
>> 	print "Unable to strobe the flash LED due to faults"
>>     else
>> 	echo 1 > flash_strobe
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Version with faults caching:
>>
>> ============
>> Driver side:
>> ============
>>
>> read_faults()
>> 	faults |= read_i2c(); //read faults
>>
>> clear_faults()
>> 	write_i2c(); //clear faults
>> 	faults = 0;
>>
>>
>> ================
>> User space side:
>> ================
>>
>> 1. faults = `cat flash_faults` //read_faults()
>> 2. if faults then
>> 	echo 0 > flash_faults  //clear_faults()
>> 	faults = `cat flash_faults` //read_faults()
>> 3, if !faults
>> 	echo 1 > flash_strobe
>>     else
>> 	print "Unable to strobe the flash LED due to faults"
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>  From the above it seems that version with clearing faults on read
>> results in the simpler flash strobing procedure on userspace side,
>> by the cost of additional bus access on the driver side.
>
> I like caching version more (as it will allow by-hand debugging of
> "why did not flash fire? Aha, lets see in the file, there was fault),
> but both should be acceptable.
>
>> we don't need additional attribute, just writing the flash_faults
>> attribute can do the clearing.
>
> Yes, writing flash_faults to clear is acceptable.

I've been just inspired with another approach:
Faults register is read in the strobe_set callback, right after sending
flash strobe command to the device. The userspace can read the cached
faults through flash_faults attribute.

This way, we avoid reading sysfs attribute with side effect and
gain the possibility of giving immediate feedback to the user.

Exemplary use case:

1. echo 1 > flash_strobe
	write_i2c();		//strobe flash
	faults = read_i2c();	//read faults
	if faults
		return -EINVAL;
	return 0;

2. cat flash_faults
	return faults;	

-- 
Best Regards,
Jacek Anaszewski
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