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Message-id: <1423063348.24415.10.camel@AMDC1943>
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:22:28 +0100
From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <k.kozlowski@...sung.com>
To: paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@...el.com>, LKP <lkp@...org>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@...sung.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
MarkRutland <mark.rutland@....com>
Subject: Re: [rcu] [ INFO: suspicious RCU usage. ]
On śro, 2015-02-04 at 07:10 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 03:16:27PM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > On śro, 2015-02-04 at 05:14 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 01:00:18PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 12:39:07PM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > > > > +Cc some ARM people
> > > >
> > > > I wish that people would CC this list with problems seen on ARM. I'm
> > > > minded to just ignore this message because of this in the hope that by
> > > > doing so, people will learn something...
> > > >
> > > > > > Another thing I could do would be to have an arch-specific Kconfig
> > > > > > variable that made ARM responsible for informing RCU that the CPU
> > > > > > was departing, which would allow a call to as follows to be placed
> > > > > > immediately after the complete():
> > > > > >
> > > > > > rcu_cpu_notify(NULL, CPU_DYING_IDLE, (void *)(long)smp_processor_id());
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note: This absolutely requires that the rcu_cpu_notify() -always-
> > > > > > be allowed to execute!!! This will not work if there is -any- possibility
> > > > > > of __cpu_die() powering off the outgoing CPU before the call to
> > > > > > rcu_cpu_notify() returns.
> > > >
> > > > Exactly, so that's not going to be possible. The completion at that
> > > > point marks the point at which power _could_ be removed from the CPU
> > > > going down.
> > >
> > > OK, sounds like a polling loop is required.
> >
> > I thought about using wait_on_bit() in __cpu_die() (the waiting thread)
> > and clearing the bit on CPU being powered down. What do you think about
> > such idea?
>
> Hmmm... It looks to me that wait_on_bit() calls out_of_line_wait_on_bit(),
> which in turn calls __wait_on_bit(), which calls prepare_to_wait() and
> finish_wait(). These are in the scheduler, but this is being called from
> the CPU that remains online, so that should be OK.
>
> But what do you invoke on the outgoing CPU? Can you get away with
> simply clearing the bit, or do you also have to do a wakeup? It looks
> to me like a wakeup is required, which would be illegal on the outgoing
> CPU, which is at a point where it cannot legally invoke the scheduler.
> Or am I missing something?
Actually the timeout versions but I think that doesn't matter.
The wait_on_bit will busy-loop with testing for the bit. Inside the loop
it calls the 'action' which in my case will be bit_wait_io_timeout().
This calls schedule_timeout().
See proof of concept in attachment. One observed issue: hot unplug from
commandline takes a lot more time. About 7 seconds instead of ~0.5.
Probably I did something wrong.
>
> You know, this situation is giving me a bad case of nostalgia for the
> old Sequent Symmetry and NUMA-Q hardware. On those platforms, the
> outgoing CPU could turn itself off, and thus didn't need to tell some
> other CPU when it was ready to be turned off. Seems to me that this
> self-turn-off capability would be a great feature for future systems!
There are a lot more issues with hotplug on ARM...
Patch/RFC attached.
View attachment "0001-ARM-Don-t-use-complete-during-__cpu_die.patch" of type "text/x-patch" (2312 bytes)
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