linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 6/9] livepatch: create per-task consistency model

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Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1502121319440.20672@pobox.suse.cz>
Date:	Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:25:14 +0100 (CET)
From:	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
cc:	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>,
	live-patching@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@...hat.com>,
	Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@...e.cz>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 6/9] livepatch: create per-task consistency model

On Thu, 12 Feb 2015, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> Its not at all clear how all this would work to me. And I'm not
> motivated enough to go try and reverse engineer your patch; IMO
> livepatching is utter fail.
> 
> If your infrastructure relies on the uptime of a single machine you've
> lost already.

Well, the fact indisputable fact is that there is a demand for this. It's 
not about one machine, it's about scheduling dowtimes of datacentres.

But if this needs to be discussed, it should be done outside of this 
thread I guess.

> FWIW, the barriers in klp_update_task_universe() and 
> klp_set_universe_goal() look like complete crack, and their comments are 
> seriously deficient.

These particular barriers seem correct to me; you basically need to make 
sure that whenever a thread with TIF_KLP_NEED_UPDATE goes through 
do_notify_resume(), it sees proper universe number to be converted to.

-- 
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs
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