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Date:	Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:42:17 +0100
From:	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@...il.com>
To:	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>
Cc:	Arjan van de Ven <arjanvandeven@...il.com>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@...il.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@...e.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@...hat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, live-patching@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: live kernel upgrades (was: live kernel patching design)

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Feb 2015, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> Of course, if you are random Joe User, you can do whatever you want, i.e.
> also compile your own home-brew patches and apply them randomly and brick
> your system that way. But that's in no way different to what you as Joe
> User can do today; there is nothing that will prevent you from shooting
> yourself in a foot if you are creative.

Sorry if I ask something that got already discussed, I did not follow
the whole live-patching discussion.

How much of the userspace tools will be public available?
With live-patching mainline the kernel offers the mechanism, but
random Joe user still needs
the tools to create good live patches.

-- 
Thanks,
//richard
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