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Message-ID: <20150224081517.GB2918@hori1.linux.bs1.fc.nec.co.jp>
Date:	Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:15:35 +0000
From:	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@...jp.nec.com>
To:	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
CC:	Naoya Horiguchi <nao.horiguchi@...il.com>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@...el.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Junichi Nomura <j-nomura@...jp.nec.com>,
	Kiyoshi Ueda <k-ueda@...jp.nec.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86: mce: kdump: use under_crashdumping to turn off
 MCE in all CPUs together

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 06:06:53PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:41:11AM +0900, Naoya Horiguchi wrote:
> > What I saw was that once in hundreds of kdump and reboot cycle we hit
> > kdump failure and panic with "Timeout synchronizing machine check over
> > CPUs" message.
>
> Ok, but this doesn't necessarily mean you're seeing an MCE.

This message is spit out only in do_machine_check(), so I think this is
a real MCE.

> Or perhaps your NMI shooting down is causing an MCE once in a hundred
> kdump cycles, i.e. I'm looking at nmi_shootdown_cpus().
> 
> Can you send me a dmesg from such a case where this happens? The more
> verbose, the better.

Unfortunately, the reproduced case was on develoment version of a distribution
kernel, so I'm afraid I can't show the dmesg here now. I don't reproduce this
on upstream kernel yet.

Let me update my explanation about the problem. I wrote the description about
race window of nmi shoot down threads. That's not wrong, but that's only the
part of the problem. The more suitable description is that all "shot down"
CPUs keep MCE enabled (disable_local_APIC() doesn't stop it) after entering
infinite loop of cpu_relax(), so any MCE event causes kernel panic due to
synchronization timeout whenever after the 2nd kernel launches on the crashing
CPU (where the CPU don't run do_machine_check(), but the other CPUs do).

Thanks,
Naoya Horiguchi--
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