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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:07:07 -0800
From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@...glemail.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86, fpu: Use eagerfpu by default on all CPUs
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Denys Vlasenko
<vda.linux@...glemail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> wrote:
>> We have eager and lazy fpu modes, introduced in:
>>
>> 304bceda6a18 x86, fpu: use non-lazy fpu restore for processors supporting xsave
>>
>> The result is rather messy. There are two code paths in almost all of the
>> FPU code, and only one of them (the eager case) is tested frequently, since
>> most kernel developers have new enough hardware that we use eagerfpu.
>>
>> It seems that, on any remotely recent hardware, eagerfpu is a win:
>> glibc uses SSE2, so laziness is probably overoptimistic, and, in any
>> case, manipulating TS is far slower that saving and restoring the full
>> state.
>>
>> To try to shake out any latent issues on old hardware, this changes
>> the default to eager on all CPUs. If no performance or functionality
>> problems show up, a subsequent patch could remove lazy mode entirely.
>
> I'm a big fan of simplifying things, but.
>
> SIMD registers were growing in x86, and they are going to grow again,
> this time four-fold in Intel MIC:
> from sixteen 256-bit registers to thirty two 512-bit registers.
>
> That's 2 kbytes of data. Just moving this data out to/from memory
> will take some time.
>
> And some people talk about 1024-bit registers already...
>
> Let's not completely remove lazy FPU saving code just yet.
> Maybe we'll be forced to reinstate it.
I'd prefer a different partial solution: encourage everyone to clear
the xstate before making syscalls (using e.g. vzeroall). In fact,
maybe user code should aggressively clear newly-unused xstate.
--Andy
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