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Message-ID: <1425665511.7562.36.camel@gmx.de>
Date:	Fri, 06 Mar 2015 19:11:51 +0100
From:	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
To:	David Ahern <david.ahern@...cle.com>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: NMI watchdog triggering during load_balance

On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 08:01 -0700, David Ahern wrote:
> On 3/5/15 9:52 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> >> CPU970 attaching sched-domain:
> >>    domain 0: span 968-975 level SIBLING
> >>     groups: 8 single CPU groups
> >>     domain 1: span 968-975 level MC
> >>      groups: 1 group with 8 cpus
> >>      domain 2: span 768-1023 level CPU
> >>       groups: 4 groups with 256 cpus per group
> >
> > Wow, that topology is horrid.  I'm not surprised that your box is
> > writhing in agony.  Can you twiddle that?
> >
> 
> twiddle that how?

That was the question, _do_ you have any control, because that topology
is toxic.  I guess your reply means 'nope'.

> The system has 4 physical cpus (sockets). Each cpu has 32 cores with 8 
> threads per core and each cpu has 4 memory controllers.

Thank god I've never met one of these, looks like the box from hell :)

> If I disable SCHED_MC and CGROUPS_SCHED (group scheduling) there is a 
> noticeable improvement -- watchdog does not trigger and I do not get the 
> rq locks held for 2-3 seconds. But there is still fairly high cpu usage 
> for an idle system. Perhaps I should leave SCHED_MC on and disable 
> SCHED_SMT; I'll try that today.

Well, if you disable SMT,your troubles _should_ shrink radically, as
your box does. You should probably look at why you have CPU domains.
You don't ever want to see that on a NUMA box.

	-Mike

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