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Message-ID: <CALCETrViW_rhzYQ+re8=KMLtc=_4YDceWKLzCOk=ReEUbe+rfg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 9 Mar 2015 12:13:24 -0700
From:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@...glemail.com>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@...hat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>,
	Will Drewry <wad@...omium.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@...nel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: entry_32.S: change ESPFIX test to not touch PT_OLDSS(%esp)

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...or.com> wrote:
> On 03/09/2015 09:44 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>
>> And remember: those zero-cost out-of-order branches turn quite
>> expensive if they *ever* mispredict. Even a 5% mispredict rate is
>> likely to mean "it's better to have a data dependency chain".
>>
>> So it could easily go either way. I'm not convinced the old code is bad at all.
>>
>
> I'm inclined to side with Linus here.  I'm hesitant to change this based
> on pure speculation.
>
> To answer Andy's question: I do believe we need espfix for V86 mode as well.
>

I think we don't.  Did I screw up my test?

--Andy

>         -hpa
>
>



-- 
Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC

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