linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/3] clk: divider: three exactness fixes (and a rant)

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Message-ID: <20150313075058.GL952@pengutronix.de>
Date:	Fri, 13 Mar 2015 08:50:58 +0100
From:	Uwe Kleine-König 
	<u.kleine-koenig@...gutronix.de>
To:	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@...gutronix.de>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...eaurora.org>
Cc:	Mike Turquette <mturquette@...aro.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Sören Brinkmann <soren.brinkmann@...inx.com>,
	kernel@...gutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] clk: divider: three exactness fixes (and a rant)

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 09:57:53AM +0100, Philipp Zabel wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 11.03.2015, 18:21 -0700 schrieb Stephen Boyd:
> [...]
> > Why does Philipp like 110Hz the most? Where is the desire for that rate
> > coming from?
> > 
> > > And the lower
> > > abs(1 / 110 - 1 / r) the better. 
> > 
> > Similarly, where is this requirement coming from? Some datasheet? Or is
> > it just some arbitrary decision we've made that may not hold true for
> > all consumers?
It's not comming from a datasheet. But that's what I guess is the right
metric for quite some cases. E.g. an UART sample rate and I also
wouldn't be surprised if Philipp's panel example would call for this
metric, too.

For an UART running with say 38400 Bd you want to sample with a freqency
of 38400 Hz (not considering oversampling, but that is only a factor
that doesn't makes my reasoning wrong). If you now consider 38401 Hz and
38399 Hz the respective deltas are 1 Hz. But if you look at the time
between two samples we have:

	38401 Hz -> 26.04098852 us -> delta: 0.6781507 ns
	38400 Hz -> 26.04166667 us
	38399 Hz -> 26.04234485 us -> delta: 0.6781861 ns

So with 38401 it takes a little longer until the slightly deviating rate
results in sampling the wrong bit.

> In this use case, the driver doesn't want the pixel clock to stay below
> a hard frequency limit, but to get as close as possible to the target
> frequency, either above or below, so the relative error to the nominal
> panel refresh rate stays as small as possible. Thus for a fictional
> target rate of 110 Hz, I'd like to minimize abs((round_rate / 110) - 1).
Note that minimizing

	abs((round_rate / 110) - 1)

is equivalent to minimizing

	abs(round_rate - 110)

.

Best regards
Uwe

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