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Date:	Sat, 28 Mar 2015 01:28:18 +0100
From:	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...e.com>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	Ville Syrjälä <syrjala@....fi>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...not-panic.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Juergen Gross <jgross@...e.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@...e.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...e.de>,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@...el.com>,
	venkatesh.pallipadi@...el.com, Dave Airlie <airlied@...hat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Fbdev development list <linux-fbdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
	"xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@...ll.ch>,
	Antonino Daplas <adaplas@...il.com>,
	Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard <plagnioj@...osoft.com>,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@...com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 09/47] vidoe: fbdev: atyfb: remove and fix MTRR MMIO
 "hole" work around

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 03:02:10PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Ville Syrjälä <syrjala@....fi> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 08:57:59PM +0100, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:43:55PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@...e.com> wrote:
> >> > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 11:15:14AM +0200, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> >> > >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 04:17:59PM -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> >> > >> > diff --git a/drivers/video/fbdev/aty/atyfb_base.c b/drivers/video/fbdev/aty/atyfb_base.c
> >> > >> > index 8025624..8875e56 100644
> >> > >> > --- a/drivers/video/fbdev/aty/atyfb_base.c
> >> > >> > +++ b/drivers/video/fbdev/aty/atyfb_base.c
> >> > >> > @@ -2630,21 +2630,10 @@ static int aty_init(struct fb_info *info)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >  #ifdef CONFIG_MTRR
> >> > >> >     par->mtrr_aper = -1;
> >> > >> > -   par->mtrr_reg = -1;
> >> > >> >     if (!nomtrr) {
> >> > >> > -           /* Cover the whole resource. */
> >> > >> > -           par->mtrr_aper = mtrr_add(par->res_start, par->res_size,
> >> > >> > +           par->mtrr_aper = mtrr_add(info->fix.smem_start,
> >> > >> > +                                     info->fix.smem_len,
> >> > >> >                                       MTRR_TYPE_WRCOMB, 1);
> >> > >>
> >> > >> MTRRs need power of two size, so how is this supposed to work?
> >> > >
> >> > > As per mtrr_add_page() [0] the base and size are just supposed to be in units
> >> > > of 4 KiB, although the practice is to use powers of 2 in *some* drivers this
> >> > > is not standardized and by no means recorded as a requirement. Obviously
> >> > > powers of 2 will work too and you'd end up neatly aligned as well. mtrr_add()
> >> > > will use mtrr_check() to verify the the same requirement. Furthermore,
> >> > > as per my commit log message:
> >> >
> >> > Whatever the code may or may not do, the x86 architecture uses
> >> > power-of-two MTRR sizes.  So I'm confused.
> >>
> >> There should be no confusion, I simply did not know that *was* the
> >> requirement for x86, if that is the case we should add a check for that
> >> and perhaps generalize a helper that does the power of two helper changes,
> >> the cleanest I found was the vesafb driver solution.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >
> > The vesafb solution is bad since you'll only end up covering only
> > the first 4MB of the framebuffer instead of the almost 8MB you want.
> > Which in practice will mean throwing away half the VRAM since you really
> > don't want the massive performance hit from accessing it as UC. And that
> > would mean giving up decent display resolutions as well :(
> >
> > And the other option of trying to cover the remainder with multiple ever
> > smaller MTRRs doesn't work either since you'll run out of MTRRs very
> > quickly.
> >
> > This is precisely why I used the hole method in atyfb in the first
> > place.
> >
> > I don't really like the idea of any new mtrr code not supporting that
> > use case, especially as these things tend to be present in older machines
> > where PAT isn't an option.
> 
> According to the Intel SDM, volume 3, section 11.5.2.1, table 11-6,
> non-PAT CPUs that have a WC MTRR, PCD = 1, and PWT = 1 (aka UC) have
> an effective memory type of UC.  Hence my suggestion to add
> ioremap_x86_uc and/or set_memory_x86_uc to punch a UC hole in an
> otherwise WC MTRR-covered region.

OK I think I get it now.

And I take it this would hopefully only be used for non-PAT systems?
Would there be a use case for PAT systems? I wonder if we can wrap
this under some APIs to make it clean and hide this dirty thing
behind the scenes, it seems a fragile and error prone and my hope
would be that we won't need more specialization in this area for
PAT systems.

> ioremap_nocache is UC- (even on non-PAT unless I misunderstood how
> this stuff works), so ioremap_nocache by itself isn't good enough.

Thanks for the clarification.

 Luis
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