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Message-ID: <20150402232804-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Apr 2015 23:28:19 +0200
From:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@...co.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@....samsung.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>,
	stephen hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>,
	Masahiro Yamada <yamada.m@...panasonic.com>,
	linux-pci@...r.kernel.org, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-api@...r.kernel.org, Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] pci: export class IDs from pci_ids.h

On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 03:53:47PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 01:33:28PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > The basic class ID macros in pci_ids.h are pretty useful for userspace
> > using the pci sysfs interface, and they aren't fundamentally different
> > from the constants in pci_regs.h - both are defined in the
> > pci spec.
> > 
> > At the moment userspace is forced to duplicate these macros
> > (e.g. QEMU does this, so do seabios, gpxe, and others), it is better to
> > expose them in /usr/include/linux/pci_ids.h so everyone can just include
> > this header.
> 
> I agree that it would be nice for applications to get these definitions
> from a single place, but I'm not sure that include/uapi/linux/pci_ids.h
> needs to be that place.
> 
> These constants are just copies of what's in the spec, and I don't think
> you're suggesting that the constants are necessary to use a kernel API.
> 
> I know the kernel does provide access to values via sysfs "class" files,
> but the kernel is just passing the values through from the hardware.
> That's analogous to reading the class with setpci, and I don't think it
> leads to a requirement that the kernel export all the information about how
> to interpret the class values.
> 
> I haven't looked at libpci or libudev, but it sounds like you think those
> are not good solutions.  Is that because they don't currently have this
> information?  People don't want to add dependencies on them?
> 
> Bjorn

People don't want to add dependencies on them.

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