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Message-ID: <20150407111855.GD14136@gmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 7 Apr 2015 13:18:56 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Subject: Re: about the flood of trivial patches and the Code of Conduct (was:
 Re: [PATCH 19/25] sched: Use bool function return values of true/false not
 1/0)


* Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 11:12:46AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > Pointing out this truth and protecting against such abusive flood of 
> > trivial patches is not against the code of conduct I signed.
> 
> I totally agree, it's not "against" the code of conflict that I 
> helped write.
> 
> Joe, you know better than to send trivial stuff to maintainers who 
> don't want it.  Send it through the trivial maintainer for 
> subsystems that have expressed annoyance at this, it's not the first 
> time this has happened.

I argue that they should not be sent _at all_ in such cases, not even 
via the trivial tree: firstly because typically I'll pick up the bits 
from the trivial tree as well, and secondly because most of the 
arguments I listed against bulk trivial commits (weaker bisectability, 
taking up reviewer bandwidth, taking up Git space, etc.) still stand.

Frankly IMHO such a */25 series could be a net negative contribution 
when coming from a kernel contributor who has written 2000+ trivial 
patches already...

> Some maintainers, like me, are fine with your types of patches, I'd 
> stick to those subsystems if you like doing this type of work.

So sending trivial patches for things like totally unreadable code in 
say drivers/staging/ is probably OK, as they materially transform the 
code and make it more maintainable.

For the rest it can be more harmful than beneficial, for the reasons I 
outlined.

Thanks,

	Ingo
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