linux-kernel - Re: [BUG/PATCH] kernel RNG and its secrets

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Date:	Fri, 10 Apr 2015 14:22:08 +0000
From:	mancha security <mancha1@...o.com>
To:	Stephan Mueller <smueller@...onox.de>
Cc:	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@...essinduktion.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>, tytso@....edu,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org,
	herbert@...dor.apana.org.au, dborkman@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [BUG/PATCH] kernel RNG and its secrets

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 04:09:10PM +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> Am Freitag, 10. April 2015, 16:00:03 schrieb Hannes Frederic Sowa:
> 
> Hi Hannes,
> 
> >On Fr, 2015-04-10 at 15:25 +0200, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> >> I would like to bring up that topic again as I did some more analyses:
> >> 
> >> For testing I used the following code:
> >> 
> >> static inline void memset_secure(void *s, int c, size_t n)
> >> {
> >> 
> >>         memset(s, c, n);
> >> 	
> >> 	BARRIER
> >> 
> >> }
> >> 
> >> where BARRIER is defined as:
> >> 
> >> (1) __asm__ __volatile__("" : "=r" (s) : "0" (s));
> >> 
> >> (2) __asm__ __volatile__("": : :"memory");
> >> 
> >> (3) __asm__ __volatile__("" : "=r" (s) : "0" (s) : "memory");
> >
> >Hm, I wonder a little bit...
> >
> >Could you quickly test if you replace (s) with (n) just for the fun of
> >it? I don't know if we should ask clang people about that, at least it
> >is their goal to be as highly compatible with gcc inline asm.
> 
> Using 
> 
>  __asm__ __volatile__("" : "=r" (n) : "0" (n) : "memory");
> 
> clang O2/3: no mov
> 
> gcc O2/3: mov present
> 
> ==> not good
> 
> 
> Using
>  __asm__ __volatile__("" : "=r" (n) : "0" (n));
> 
> clang O2/3: no mov
> 
> gcc O2/3: no mov
> 
> 
> ==> not good
> 
> 
> What do you expect that change shall do?
> 
> >
> >Thanks for looking into this!
> >
> >Bye,
> >Hannes
> 
> 
> Ciao
> Stephan

Thanks for the comprehensive testing! Clang 3.3 and was giving me good
results; didn't try newer versions.

I wonder what your tests give with an earlier suggestion of mine:

#define barrier(p) __asm__ __volatile__("": :"r"(p) :"memory")

void memzero_explicit(void *s, size_t count)
{
  memset(s, 0, count);
  barrier(s);
}

--mancha

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