linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 01/17] IB/Verbs: Implement new callback query

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Message-ID: <1428688172.2980.372.camel@redhat.com>
Date:	Fri, 10 Apr 2015 13:49:32 -0400
From:	Doug Ledford <dledford@...hat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/17] IB/Verbs: Implement new callback
 query_transport() for each HW

On Fri, 2015-04-10 at 13:38 -0400, ira.weiny wrote:

> Isn't ocrdma an iWarp device?

No, it's roce.  It and mlx4 roce devices currently interoperate.

> > I think if we look closely we'll find that IPoIB today has a hard
> > requirement on cap_sa being true, so lets use that?
> 
> I don't think that is appropriate.  You have been advocating that the checks
> be clear as to what support we need.  While currently the IPoIB layer does (for
> IB and OPA) require an SA I think those checks are only appropriate when it is
> attempting an SA query.
> 
> The choice to run IPoIB at all is a different matter.

Appropriately named or not, Jason's choice of words "has a hard
requirement" is correct ;-)  For IPoIB, the broadcast group of the fake
Ethernet fabric is a very specific IB multicast group per the IPoIB
spec.

> > 
> > In fact any ULP that unconditionally uses the SA can use that.
> 
> They _can_ use that but the point of this exercise (and additional checks going
> forward) is that we don't "hide" meaning like this.
> 
> IPoIB should restrict itself to running on IB link layers.  Should additional
> link layers be added which IPoIB works on then we add that check.

I think your right that checking the link layer is the right thing, and
for now, there is no need to check cap_sa because the link layer check
enforces it.  In the future, if there is a new link layer we want to use
this on, and it doesn't have an sa, then we have to enable sa checks and
alternate methods at that time.

-- 
Doug Ledford <dledford@...hat.com>
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