linux-kernel - Re: [GIT PULL] PMEM driver for v4.1

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Message-ID: <20150413104531.GB30556@gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 13 Apr 2015 12:45:32 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@...ts.01.org,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@...ux.intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
	Boaz Harrosh <boaz@...xistor.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] PMEM driver for v4.1


* Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:33:09AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > Limitations: this is a regular block device, and since the pmem areas 
> > are not struct page backed, they are invisible to the rest of the 
> > system (other than the block IO device), so direct IO to/from pmem 
> > areas, direct mmap() or XIP is not possible yet. The page cache will 
> > also shadow and double buffer pmem contents, etc.
> 
> Unless you use the DAX support in ext2/4 and soon XFS, in which case
> we avoid that double buffering when doing read/write and mmap

Indeed, I missed that DAX support just went upstream in v4.0 - nice!

DAX may have some other limitations though that comes from not having 
struct page * backing and using VM_MIXEDMAP, the following APIs might 
not work on DAX files:

   - splice
   - zero copy O_DIRECT into DAX areas.
   - futexes

   - ( AFAICS hugetlbs won't work on DAX mmap()s yet - although with
       the current nocache mapping that's probable the least of the 
       performance issues for now. )

Btw., what's the future design plan here? Enable struct page backing, 
or provide special codepaths for all DAX uses like the special pte 
based approach for mmap()s?

Thanks,

	Ingo
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