linux-kernel - Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

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Message-ID: <1429083093.3508.21.camel@gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 15 Apr 2015 09:31:33 +0200
From:	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@...il.com>
To:	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@...il.com>
Cc:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Mack <daniel@...que.org>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@...ndz.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

On Wed, 2015-04-15 at 08:54 +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net
> > wrote:
> > > We had been there before.  To paraphrase another... meticulously 
> > > honorable
> > > person, "if you didn't want something relied upon, why have you 
> > > put it into the
> > > kernel?" Said person is on the record as having no problem 
> > > whatsoever with
> > > adding dependencies to the bottom of userland stack.
> > 
> > It appears that, if kdbus is merged, upstream udev may end up 
> > requiring it:
> > 
> > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html
> 
> Why so surprised?
> kdbus will be a major hard-dependency for every non-trivial userland.
> Like cgroups...

Heh, makes one wonder how we ever survived.

My openSUSE box is thoroughly infested with latest system-disease, and 
it seems the thing has now mandated group scheduling.  Whether you 
need/want it and its size large overhead or not is immaterial.  I'm 
not seeing an on/off switch anyway.

(shrug, axe should work as substitute, say "byebye tentacle").

        -Mike
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