linux-kernel - Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

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Date:	Wed, 15 Apr 2015 10:38:18 +0200
From:	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>
Cc:	Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Mack <daniel@...que.org>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@...ndz.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:39:22AM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2015, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> 
> > I don't understand.  You can not like the D-Bus model (and accordingly
> > the X11 model), 
> 
> I thought that the general hatred level of the X11 "model" and the 
> protocol lead to al the efforts to reimplement this properly ... in 
> userspace (for example Wayland, right?).
> 
> I don't think anyone was ever seriously suggesting "X11 model is broken, 
> so let's push it to kernel" ... ?

Ok, fine, it's a broken metaphore, see Havoc's email for why I brought
that up here.  It's the issue that a stateful bus is required for
applications that is the main point I'm trying to get across.

thanks,

greg k-h
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