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Message-ID: <CAFLxGvz9sn7rk1zU5tA8wPtn0T6ujR_tmEhLQeBcVOtKL00wdA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 15 Apr 2015 08:54:07 +0200
From:	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@...il.com>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Mack <daniel@...que.org>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@...ndz.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> wrote:
>> We had been there before.  To paraphrase another... meticulously honorable
>> person, "if you didn't want something relied upon, why have you put it into the
>> kernel?" Said person is on the record as having no problem whatsoever with
>> adding dependencies to the bottom of userland stack.
>
> It appears that, if kdbus is merged, upstream udev may end up requiring it:
>
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html

Why so surprised?
kdbus will be a major hard-dependency for every non-trivial userland.
Like cgroups...

-- 
Thanks,
//richard
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