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Message-ID: <55375C10.8070901@profitbricks.com> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:30:08 +0200 From: Michael Wang <yun.wang@...fitbricks.com> To: Liran Liss <liranl@...lanox.com>, Roland Dreier <roland@...nel.org>, Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@...el.com>, Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@...il.com>, "linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org>, "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, "hal@....mellanox.co.il" <hal@....mellanox.co.il> CC: Tom Tucker <tom@...ngridcomputing.com>, Steve Wise <swise@...ngridcomputing.com>, Hoang-Nam Nguyen <hnguyen@...ibm.com>, "raisch@...ibm.com" <raisch@...ibm.com>, Mike Marciniszyn <infinipath@...el.com>, Eli Cohen <eli@...lanox.com>, Faisal Latif <faisal.latif@...el.com>, Jack Morgenstein <jackm@....mellanox.co.il>, Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@...lanox.com>, Haggai Eran <haggaie@...lanox.com>, Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@...el.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@...pey.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@...idianresearch.com>, Doug Ledford <dledford@...hat.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers Hi, Liran Thanks for the comment :-) On 04/22/2015 01:36 AM, Liran Liss wrote: [snip] > > (**) This has been extended to also encode the transport in the current code. > At least for user-space visible APIs, we might chose to leave this for backward compatibility, but we can consider cleaning up the kernel code. > > So, I think that our "old-transport" below is just fine. > No need to change it (and you aren't, since it is currently implemented as a function). > > The "new-transport" does not really exist, but is broken into several capability checks of the L4 transport, optionally with conditions on the link type. > I would remove the table below and tell what we really want to achieve: > ==> move technology-specific feature-check logic out of the (multiple!) IB code components and various ULPs into per-feature helpers. Our purpose is to help core layer do management more clearly, rather then referring from transport and linklayer. IMHO from management's point of view, what we really care about is whether a particular management required by device or not, rather then the details on transport and link layer. This new transport is only understand by core-layer currently, for user-layer we still reserve the old transport for them, next step is to use bitmask instead of transport, at that time we can erase the new transport and make the whole stuff used by user-layer only :-) > > > Detailed remarks > ============== > > 1) The introduction of cap_*_*() stuff should have been introduced directly in patch 02/27. > This back-and-forth between rdma_ib_or_iboe() and cap_* is confusing and increases the number of patches in the patch-set. > Do this and remove patches 16-24. We have some discussion about compress the patch set, merge the reform and introducing patch will mix the concept (like the earlier version), IMHO it will increase the difficulty of review... And now since many review already been done, it's not wise to change the whole structure of patch set IMHO... > > 2)The name rdma_tech_* is lame. > rdma_transport_*(), adhering to the above (*) remark, is much better. > For example, both IB and ROCE *do* use the same transport. We have some discussion on that too, use transport means going back... > > 3) The name cap_* as it is used above is not accurate. > You use it to describe technology characteristics rather than extendable capabilities. > I would suggest having a single convention for all helpers, such as rdma_has_*() and rdma_is_*(). > For example: cap_ib_smi() ==> rdma_has_smi(). That means going back too... > > 4) Remove all capabilities that do not introduce any distinction in the current code. > We can add them as needed later. > This means remove patches: > - [PATCH v5 22/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ipoib() – all IB devices support ipoib > - [PATCH v5 24/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_af_ib() – all IB devices support AF_IB. > > On the other hand: > - rdma_has_multicast() makes sense, since iWARP doesn’t support it. > - cap_ib_sa() might make sense to cut code even further in the CMA, since RoCE has a GSI but no SA. We have discussion on define these helpers previously, again, name is not really a problem, I would rather to see such changes in the following series after this one working stably :-) > > 5) Do no modify phys_state_show() in [PATCH v5 09/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core verbs/uverbs_cmd/sysfs > It *is* the link layer! Actually nothing changed after the modify, the prev purpose it to eliminate the link layer helpers. But now we are not going to remove the helper any more, so let's drop this modification in next version :-) > > 6) Remove cap_read_multi_sge > It is not device/port feature, but a transport capability. > Use rdma_is_iwarp_transport() instead, or introduce a new transport flag in 'enum ib_device_cap_flags'. > > 7) Remove [PATCH v5 25/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_eth_ah(). > Address handles that refer to Ethernet links always have Ethernet addressing. > > In the CMA code, using rdma_tech_iboe() is just fine. This is how you define cap_eth_ah() anyway. > Currently, this patch just adds clutter. There are also some discussion on these helpers, drop them means going back.. The tech helper is not enough to explain the management purpose, and this can be the wrapper for bitmask stuff too. > > 8) Remove patch [PATCH v5 26/27] IB/Verbs: Clean up rdma_ib_or_iboe(). > We do need a transport qualifier, as exemplified in comment 5) above, and for a complete clean model. > This is after renaming the function to rdma_is_ib_transport()... This means going back again... rdma_is_ib_transport() has been used previously. This helper is just to make the review more easier, we won't need it internally, not to mention after bitmask was introduced :-) > > > Putting it all together > ================== > > We are left with the following helpers: > - rdma_is_ib_transport() > - rdma_is_iwarp_transport() > - rdma_is_usnic_transport() > - rdma_is_iboe() > - rdma_has_mad() > - rdma_has_smi() > - rdma_has_gsi() - complements smi; can be used by the mad code for clarity > - rdma_has_sa() > - rdma_has_cm() > - rdma_has_mcast() I think we can put the discussion on name and new helpers in future, currently let's focus on these basic reform and make them working stably ;-) Regards, Michael Wang > > >> Subject: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers >> >> >> Since v4: >> * Thanks for the comments from Hal, Sean, Tom, Or Gerlitz, Jason, >> Roland, Ira and Steve :-) Please remind me if anything missed :-P >> * Fix logical issue inside 3#, 14# >> * Refine 3#, 4#, 5# with label 'free' >> * Rework 10# to stop using port 1 when port already assigned >> >> There are plenty of lengthy code to check the transport type of IB device, or >> the link layer type of it's port, but actually we are just speculating whether a >> particular management/feature is supported by the device/port. >> >> Thus instead of inferring, we should have our own mechanism for IB >> management capability/protocol/feature checking, several proposals below. >> >> This patch set will reform the method of getting transport type, we will now >> using query_transport() instead of inferring from transport and link layer >> respectively, also we defined the new transport type to make the concept >> more reasonable. >> >> Mapping List: >> node-type link-layer old-transport new-transport >> nes RNIC ETH IWARP IWARP >> amso1100 RNIC ETH IWARP IWARP >> cxgb3 RNIC ETH IWARP IWARP >> cxgb4 RNIC ETH IWARP IWARP >> usnic USNIC_UDP ETH USNIC_UDP USNIC_UDP >> ocrdma IB_CA ETH IB IBOE >> mlx4 IB_CA IB/ETH IB IB/IBOE >> mlx5 IB_CA IB IB IB >> ehca IB_CA IB IB IB >> ipath IB_CA IB IB IB >> mthca IB_CA IB IB IB >> qib IB_CA IB IB IB >> >> For example: >> if (transport == IB) && (link-layer == ETH) will now become: >> if (query_transport() == IBOE) >> >> Thus we will be able to get rid of the respective transport and link-layer >> checking, and it will help us to add new protocol/Technology (like OPA) more >> easier, also with the introduced management helpers, IB management logical >> will be more clear and easier for extending. >> >> Highlights: >> The patch set covered a wide range of IB stuff, thus for those who are >> familiar with the particular part, your suggestion would be invaluable ;-) >> >> Patch 1#~15# included all the logical reform, 16#~25# introduced the >> management helpers, 26#~27# do clean up. >> >> Patches haven't been tested yet, we appreciate if any one who have these >> HW willing to provide his Tested-by :-) >> >> Doug suggested the bitmask mechanism: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux- >> rdma@...r.kernel.org/msg23765.html >> which could be the plan for future reforming, we prefer that to be another >> series which focus on semantic and performance. >> >> This patch-set is somewhat 'bloated' now and it may be a good timing for >> staging, I'd like to suggest we focus on improving existed helpers and push >> all the further reforms into next series ;-) >> >> Proposals: >> Sean: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux- >> rdma@...r.kernel.org/msg23339.html >> Doug: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux- >> rdma@...r.kernel.org/msg23418.html >> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux- >> rdma@...r.kernel.org/msg23765.html >> Jason: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux- >> rdma@...r.kernel.org/msg23425.html >> >> Michael Wang (27): >> IB/Verbs: Implement new callback query_transport() >> IB/Verbs: Implement raw management helpers >> IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core mad/agent/user_mad >> IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core cm >> IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core sa_query >> IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core multicast >> IB/Verbs: Reform IB-ulp ipoib >> IB/Verbs: Reform IB-ulp xprtrdma >> IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core verbs/uverbs_cmd/sysfs >> IB/Verbs: Reform cm related part in IB-core cma/ucm >> IB/Verbs: Reform route related part in IB-core cma >> IB/Verbs: Reform mcast related part in IB-core cma >> IB/Verbs: Reserve legacy transport type in 'dev_addr' >> IB/Verbs: Reform cma_acquire_dev() >> IB/Verbs: Reform rest part in IB-core cma >> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_mad() >> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_smi() >> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_cm() >> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_iw_cm() >> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_sa() >> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_mcast() >> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ipoib() >> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_read_multi_sge() >> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_af_ib() >> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_eth_ah() >> IB/Verbs: Clean up rdma_ib_or_iboe() >> IB/Verbs: Cleanup rdma_node_get_transport() >> >> --- >> drivers/infiniband/core/agent.c | 4 >> drivers/infiniband/core/cm.c | 26 +- >> drivers/infiniband/core/cma.c | 328 ++++++++++++--------------- >> drivers/infiniband/core/device.c | 1 >> drivers/infiniband/core/mad.c | 51 ++-- >> drivers/infiniband/core/multicast.c | 18 - >> drivers/infiniband/core/sa_query.c | 41 +-- >> drivers/infiniband/core/sysfs.c | 8 >> drivers/infiniband/core/ucm.c | 5 >> drivers/infiniband/core/ucma.c | 27 -- >> drivers/infiniband/core/user_mad.c | 32 +- >> drivers/infiniband/core/uverbs_cmd.c | 6 >> drivers/infiniband/core/verbs.c | 33 -- >> drivers/infiniband/hw/amso1100/c2_provider.c | 7 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/cxgb3/iwch_provider.c | 7 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/cxgb4/provider.c | 7 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_hca.c | 6 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_iverbs.h | 3 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_main.c | 1 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/ipath/ipath_verbs.c | 7 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx4/main.c | 10 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx5/main.c | 7 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/mthca/mthca_provider.c | 7 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/nes/nes_verbs.c | 6 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/ocrdma/ocrdma_main.c | 1 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/ocrdma/ocrdma_verbs.c | 6 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/ocrdma/ocrdma_verbs.h | 3 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/qib/qib_verbs.c | 7 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/usnic/usnic_ib_main.c | 1 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/usnic/usnic_ib_verbs.c | 6 >> drivers/infiniband/hw/usnic/usnic_ib_verbs.h | 2 >> drivers/infiniband/ulp/ipoib/ipoib_main.c | 17 - >> include/rdma/ib_verbs.h | 204 +++++++++++++++- >> net/sunrpc/xprtrdma/svc_rdma_recvfrom.c | 6 >> net/sunrpc/xprtrdma/svc_rdma_transport.c | 51 +--- >> 35 files changed, 584 insertions(+), 368 deletions(-) >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-rdma" in the >> body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at >> http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of 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