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Date:	Thu, 23 Apr 2015 20:52:02 +0200
From:	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@...glemail.com>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@...hat.com>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@...il.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
	Will Drewry <wad@...omium.org>,
	Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"linux-tip-commits@...r.kernel.org" 
	<linux-tip-commits@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/vdso] x86/vdso32/syscall.S: Do not load __USER32_DS to
 %ss

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:24:14AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> That nails it.  We really do leak segment limits to other tasks on AMD
> chips.  I see at least two questions we should answer before fixing
> this:

Ok, WTF is going on?! Even this trivial test case causes a Bus Error:

---
static unsigned short GDT3(int idx)
{
	return (idx << 3) | 3;
}

static void *threadproc(void *ctx)
{
	printf("Hello world\n");
	return NULL;
}

int main()
{
	pthread_t thread;
	if (pthread_create(&thread, 0, threadproc, 0) != 0)
		err(1, "pthread_create");

	while (1) {
		usleep(1);
	}

	return 0;
}
---

$ make sysret_ss_attrs_32
gcc -m32 -o sysret_ss_attrs_32 -O2 -g -std=gnu99 -pthread -Wall  sysret_ss_attrs.c -lrt -ldl
sysret_ss_attrs.c:23:23: warning: ‘GDT3’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
 static unsigned short GDT3(int idx)
                       ^
$ taskset -c 0 ./sysret_ss_attrs_32 
Hello world
Bus error

in dmesg:

[  583.389368] traps: sysret_ss_attrs[2135] trap stack segment ip:f7784b87 sp:ffb640c0 error:0

This is insane.

> 1. Do we consider this to be enough of a security issue that we want
> to fix it for 64-bit userspace as well?
> 
> 2. Do we fix it at sysret time (at the cost of an ss read even in the
> best case on AMD chips) or at context switch time (with the risk of
> more ss writes than necessary)?
> 
> I slightly favor fixing it at sysret time for both the 32-bit and
> 64-bit paths., but I'm not really convinced.

Yeah, a "call amd_fixup_ss" which gets NOPped out on Intel with
alternatives sounds nice and clean to me.

Pending we have an explanation WTH is going on...

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

ECO tip #101: Trim your mails when you reply.
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