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Date:	Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:36:37 -0700
From:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:	Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@...glemail.com>
Cc:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@...il.com>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@...hat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>,
	Will Drewry <wad@...omium.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86_64, asm: Work around AMD SYSRET SS descriptor
 attribute issue

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Denys Vlasenko
<vda.linux@...glemail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Denys Vlasenko
>>>> This might be way more trouble than it's worth.
>>>
>>> Exactly my feeling. What are you trying to save? About four CPU
>>> cycles of checking %ss != __KERNEL_DS on each switch_to?
>>> That's not worth bothering about. Your last patch seems to be perfect.
>>
>> We'll have to do the write to ss almost every time an AMD CPU sleeps
>> in a syscall.
>
> Why do you think so?
> Scheduling from a syscall which decided to block won't require
> writing to %ss, since in this case %ss isn't NULL.
>
> Writing to %ss will happen every time we schedule from an interrupt.
> With timer interrupt every 1 ms it means scheduling at most ~1000
> times per second, if _every_ such interrupt causes task switch.
> This is still not often enough to worry.

OK, you've convinced me.  I still think it can happen much more than
~1k times per second due to hrtimers (see my test case) or things like
page faults, but those are all slow paths.

v2 coming.

-- 
Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC
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