linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] usb: core: add usb3 lpm sysfs

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Message-ID: <20150429090148.GA22743@kroah.com>
Date:	Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:01:48 +0200
From:	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:	Zhuang Jin Can <jin.can.zhuang@...el.com>
Cc:	rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com, stern@...land.harvard.edu,
	dan.j.williams@...el.com, pmladek@...e.cz,
	peter.chen@...escale.com, jwerner@...omium.org,
	linux-api@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-usb@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] usb: core: add usb3 lpm sysfs

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 03:20:04PM +0800, Zhuang Jin Can wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:11:10PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:51:27AM +0800, Zhuang Jin Can wrote:
> > > Hi Greg KH,
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:42:24PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 11:46:12AM +0800, Zhuang Jin Can wrote:
> > > > > Some usb3 devices may not support usb3 lpm well.
> > > > > The patch adds a sysfs to enable/disable u1 or u2 of the port.The
> > > > > settings apply to both before and after device enumeration.
> > > > > Supported values are "0" - u1 and u2 are disabled, "u1" - only u1 is
> > > > > enabled, "u2" - only u2 is enabled, "u1_u2" - u1 and u2 are enabled.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The interface is useful for testing some USB3 devices during
> > > > > development, and provides a way to disable usb3 lpm if the issues can
> > > > > not be fixed in final products.
> > > > 
> > > > How is a user supposed to "know" to make this setting for a device?  Why
> > > > can't the kernel automatically set this value properly?  Why does it
> > > > need to be a kernel issue at all?
> > > > 
> > > By default kernel enables u1 u2 of all USB3 devices. This interface
> > > provides the user to change this policy. User may set the policy
> > > according to PID/VID of uevent or according to the platform information
> > > known by userspace.
> > 
> > And why would they ever want to do that?
> > 
> > > It's not a kernel issue, as u1 u2 is mandatory by USB3 compliance. But
> > > for some internal hardwired USB3 connection, e.g. SSIC, passing USB3
> > > compliance is not mandatory. So the interface provides a way for vendor
> > > to ship with u1 or u2 broken products. Of course, this is not encouraged :).
> > 
> > If the state is broken for those devices, we can't require the user to
> > fix it for us, the kernel should do it automatically.
> > 
> > > > And when you are doing development of broken devices, the kernel doesn't
> > > > have to support you, you can run with debugging patches of your own
> > > > until you fix your firmware :)
> > > > 
> > > Understood. But I think other vendor or developer may face the same
> > > issue in final product shipment or during development. Moreover, the
> > > interface provide the flexibility for developer to separately
> > > disable/enable u1 or u2, e.g. If they're debugging an u2 issue, they
> > > can disable u1 to simplify the situtation.
> > 
> > For debugging only, perhaps, but for a "normal" user, please let's
> > handle this automatically and don't create a switch that never gets used
> > by anyone or anything.
> > 
> Thanks Greg. Since so far the patch has no interesting value to the
> community, I'll drop the patch.

I didn't say that, I said it needed some more work to be accepted.
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