linux-kernel - Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

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Message-ID: <5540E4D9.6000007@nod.at>
Date:	Wed, 29 Apr 2015 16:04:09 +0200
From:	Richard Weinberger <richard@....at>
To:	Harald Hoyer <harald@...hat.com>
CC:	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

Am 29.04.2015 um 16:01 schrieb Harald Hoyer:
> On 29.04.2015 15:46, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> Am 29.04.2015 um 15:38 schrieb Harald Hoyer:
>>> On 29.04.2015 15:33, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>>>> It depends how you define "beginning". To me an initramfs is a *very* minimal
>>>> tool to prepare the rootfs and nothing more (no udev, no systemd, no
>>>> "mini distro").
>>>> If the initramfs fails to do its job it can print to the console like
>>>> the kernel does if it fails
>>>> at a very early stage.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your solution might work for your small personal needs, but not for our customers.
>>
>> Correct, I don't know your customers, all I know are my customers. :-)
>>
>> What feature do your customers need?
>> I mean, I fully agree with you that an initramfs must not fail silently
>> but how does dbus help there? If it fails to mount the rootfs there is not
>> much it can do.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> //richard
>>
> 
> We don't handcraft the initramfs script for every our customers, therefore we
> have to generically support hotplug, persistent device names, persistent
> interface names, network connectivity in the initramfs, user input handling for
> passwords, fonts, keyboard layouts, fips, fsck, repair tools for file systems,
> raid assembly, LVM assembly, multipath, crypto devices, live images, iSCSI,
> FCoE, all kinds of filesystems with their quirks, IBM z-series support, resume
> from hibernation, […]

This is correct. But which of these tools/features depend on dbus?

Thanks,
//richard

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