linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] proc: add kpageidle file

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Date:	Thu, 30 Apr 2015 15:55:33 +0900
From:	Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>
To:	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@...allels.com>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@...gle.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@...gle.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@...allels.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...nvz.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>, linux-api@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	cgroups@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] proc: add kpageidle file

Hi,

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:31:49AM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 01:57:59PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 03:24:42PM +0300, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > > @@ -69,6 +69,14 @@ There are four components to pagemap:
> > >     memory cgroup each page is charged to, indexed by PFN. Only available when
> > >     CONFIG_MEMCG is set.
> > >  
> > > + * /proc/kpageidle.  For each page this file contains a 64-bit number, which
> > > +   equals 1 if the page is idle or 0 otherwise, indexed by PFN. A page is
> > > +   considered idle if it has not been accessed since it was marked idle. To
> > > +   mark a page idle one should write 1 to this file at the offset corresponding
> > > +   to the page. Only user memory pages can be marked idle, for other page types
> > > +   input is silently ignored. Writing to this file beyond max PFN results in
> > > +   the ENXIO error. Only available when CONFIG_IDLE_PAGE_TRACKING is set.
> > > +
> > 
> > How about using kpageflags for reading part?
> > 
> > I mean PG_idle is one of the page flags and we already have a feature to
> > parse of each PFN flag so we could reuse existing feature for reading
> > idleness.
> 
> Reading PG_idle implies clearing all pte references to make sure the
> page was not referenced via a pte. This means that exporting it via
> /proc/kpageflags would increase the cost of reading this file, even for
> users that don't care about PG_idle. I'm not sure all users of
> /proc/kpageflags will be fine with it.

It triggers rmap traverse so it would be horrible overhead sometime
so I agree every kpageflags users don't want it but I didn't mean
reading of PG_idle via kpageflags should clear all pte references.
Reset should be still part of kpageidle but we can just read idlenss
without reset by kpageflags(IOW, Reset and reading is orthogoal)

A benefit via reading kpageflags, we could parse it's idle page
and not dirty page so we could reclaim it easy.
Anyway, it could be further improvement.

> 
> Thanks,
> Vladimir

-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim
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