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Message-ID: <CAPM=9tw0Z3vU-sTS1-G45uaD5HW6T4Zdm0LLTRUYbwQFni0m4w@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 30 Apr 2015 11:20:32 +1000
From:	Dave Airlie <airlied@...il.com>
To:	David Lang <david@...g.hm>
Cc:	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>, John Stoffel <john@...ffel.org>,
	Harald Hoyer <harald@...hat.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@...il.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

>>>
>>> I've had Enterprise systems where I could hit power on two boxes, and
>>> finish
>>> the OS install on one before the other has even finished POST and look
>>> for
>>> the boot media. I did this 5 years ago, before the "let's speed up boot"
>>> push started.
>>>
>>> Admittedly, this wasn't a stock distro boot/install, it was my own
>>> optimized
>>> one, but it also wasn't as optimized and automated as it could have been
>>> (several points where the installer needed to pick items from a menu and
>>> enter values)
>>>
>>
>> You guys might have missed this new industry trend, I think they call
>> it virtualisation,
>>
>> I hear it's going to be big, you might want to look into it.
>
>
> So what do you run your virtual machines on? you still have to put an OS on
> the hardware to support your VMs. Virtualization doesn't eliminate servers
> (as much as some cloud advocates like to claim it does)
>
> And virtualization has overhead, sometimes very significant overhead, so
> it's not always the right answer.
>

Thanks for proving my point, RHEL as a distro runs in both scenarios, optimising
one is important at the moment, that fact that it might speed up boot on server
which take 15 mins to POST is a side effect.

For some reason people seem to think their one use case is all that matters,

Dave.
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