linux-kernel - Re: Tux3 Report: How fast can we fsync?

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Message-ID: <5545029A.20608@ontolab.com>
Date:	Sat, 02 May 2015 19:00:10 +0200
From:	Christian Stroetmann <stroetmann@...olab.com>
To:	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@...il.com>
CC:	Daniel Phillips <daniel@...nq.net>, David Lang <david@...g.hm>,
	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>, tux3@...3.org,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>
Subject: Re: Tux3 Report: How fast can we fsync?

On 2nd of May 2015 18:30, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Christian Stroetmann
> <stroetmann@...olab.com>  wrote:
>> On the 2nd of May 2015 12:26, Daniel Phillips wrote:
>>
>> Aloha everybody
>>
>>> On Friday, May 1, 2015 6:07:48 PM PDT, David Lang wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 1 May 2015, Daniel Phillips wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, May 1, 2015 8:38:55 AM PDT, Dave Chinner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, yes - I never claimed XFS is a general purpose filesystem.  It
>>>>>> is a high performance filesystem. Is is also becoming more relevant
>>>>>> to general purpose systems as low cost storage gains capabilities
>>>>>> that used to be considered the domain of high performance storage...
>>>>>
>>>>> OK. Well, Tux3 is general purpose and that means we care about single
>>>>> spinning disk and small systems.
>>>>
>>>> keep in mind that if you optimize only for the small systems you may not
>>>> scale as well to the larger ones.
>>>
>>> Tux3 is designed to scale, and it will when the time comes. I look forward
>>> to putting Shardmap through its billion file test in due course. However,
>>> right now it would be wise to stay focused on basic functionality suited to
>>> a workstation because volunteer devs tend to have those. After that, phones
>>> are a natural direction, where hard core ACID commit and really smooth file
>>> ops are particularly attractive.
>>>
>> Has anybody else a deja vu?
> Yes, the onto-troll strikes again...
>

Everybody has her/his own interpretation about what open source means.

I really thought there could be some kind of a constructive discussion 
about such a file system or at least about interesting technical 
features that can be used for other file systems like e.g. a potential 
EXT5, when I relaxed my position some days ago and proposed that also 
ideas are referenced correctly in relation with open source projects, 
specifically in relation with Tux3.
Now, I have the impression that this is not possible and due to this any 
progress is hard to achieve.



Thanks
Best Regards
Do not feed the trolls.
C.S.
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