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Date:	Sat, 2 May 2015 08:57:08 +0200
From:	Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@...il.com>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Abelardo Ricart III <aricart@...nix.com>,
	Michal Marek <mmarek@...e.cz>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>, keyrings@...ux-nfs.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@...cle.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MODSIGN: Change default key details [ver #2]

On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 6:12 AM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Abelardo Ricart III <aricart@...nix.com> wrote:
>>
>> Here's my two-line patch strictly defining the build order, for your perusal.
>
> Ok, so this looks possible and sounds like it could explain the issues.
>
> But I'd like somebody who is much more familiar with these kinds of
> subtleties in 'make' to take anothe rlook and ack it. Because I had
> personally never even heard (much less used) about these magical GNU
> make "order-only prerequisites". Live and learn.
>
>> -signing_key.priv signing_key.x509: x509.genkey
>> +signing_key.priv signing_key.x509: | x509.genkey
>> +       $(warning *** X.509 module signing key pair not found in root of source tree ***)
>
> So we shouldn't warn about this. The "generate random key" should be
> the normal action for just about everybody but actual preduction
> vendor builds. It's definitely not an error condition.
>
> But that ": |" syntax is interesting. I quick grep does show that we
> do have a few previous uses, so I guess we really *do* use just about
> every possible feature of GNU make even if I wasn't aware of this
> one..
>
> The "generate random key" does seem to be a similar "prep" phase as
> the __dtbs_install_prep thing we do in the dtb install.
>
> Adding Michal Marek to the cc, since I want an Ack from somebody who
> knows the details of GNU make more than I do.  Anybody else who is a
> makefile God?
>

/me no GNU/make or Makefile guru.

When dealing with .PHONY targets [2] within the Freetz router project
I bookmarked the below links.
So there exists ".NOTPARALLEL" [1].
Maybe its use can be a "hacky" possibility to workaround the issue
(cannot tell you about version-prereqs of GNU/make).

My 0,02cents.

- Sedat -

[1] https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/Special-Targets.html
[2] https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/Phony-Targets.html
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