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Date:	Mon, 4 May 2015 14:30:46 -0700
From:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Waiman Long <waiman.long@...com>
Cc:	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>, Nathan Zimmer <nzimmer@....com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
	Scott Norton <scott.norton@...com>,
	Daniel J Blueman <daniel@...ascale.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/13] Parallel struct page initialisation v4

On Fri, 01 May 2015 20:09:21 -0400 Waiman Long <waiman.long@...com> wrote:

> On 05/01/2015 06:02 PM, Waiman Long wrote:
> >
> > Bad news!
> >
> > I tried your patch on a 24-TB DragonHawk and got an out of memory 
> > panic. The kernel log messages were:
>
> ...
>
> > [   81.360287]  [<ffffffff8151b0c9>] dump_stack+0x68/0x77
> > [   81.365942]  [<ffffffff8151ae1e>] panic+0xb9/0x219
> > [   81.371213]  [<ffffffff810785c3>] ? 
> > __blocking_notifier_call_chain+0x63/0x80
> > [   81.378971]  [<ffffffff811384ce>] __out_of_memory+0x34e/0x350
> > [   81.385292]  [<ffffffff811385ee>] out_of_memory+0x5e/0x90
> > [   81.391230]  [<ffffffff8113ce9e>] __alloc_pages_slowpath+0x6be/0x740
> > [   81.398219]  [<ffffffff8113d15c>] __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x23c/0x250
> > [   81.405212]  [<ffffffff81186346>] kmem_getpages+0x56/0x110
> > [   81.411246]  [<ffffffff81187f44>] fallback_alloc+0x164/0x200
> > [   81.417474]  [<ffffffff81187cfd>] ____cache_alloc_node+0x8d/0x170
> > [   81.424179]  [<ffffffff811887bb>] kmem_cache_alloc_trace+0x17b/0x240
> > [   81.431169]  [<ffffffff813d5f3a>] init_memory_block+0x3a/0x110
> > [   81.437586]  [<ffffffff81b5f687>] memory_dev_init+0xd7/0x13d
> > [   81.443810]  [<ffffffff81b5f2af>] driver_init+0x2f/0x37
> > [   81.449556]  [<ffffffff81b1599b>] do_basic_setup+0x29/0xd5
> > [   81.455597]  [<ffffffff81b372c4>] ? sched_init_smp+0x140/0x147
> > [   81.462015]  [<ffffffff81b15c55>] kernel_init_freeable+0x20e/0x297
> > [   81.468815]  [<ffffffff81512ea0>] ? rest_init+0x80/0x80
> > [   81.474565]  [<ffffffff81512ea9>] kernel_init+0x9/0xf0
> > [   81.480216]  [<ffffffff8151f788>] ret_from_fork+0x58/0x90
> > [   81.486156]  [<ffffffff81512ea0>] ? rest_init+0x80/0x80
> > [   81.492350] ---[ end Kernel panic - not syncing: Out of memory and 
> > no killable processes...
> > [   81.492350]
> >
> > -Longman
> 
> I increased the pre-initialized memory per node in update_defer_init() 
> of mm/page_alloc.c from 2G to 4G. Now I am able to boot the 24-TB 
> machine without error. The 12-TB has 0.75TB/node, while the 24-TB 
> machine has 1.5TB/node. I would suggest something like pre-initializing 
> 1G per 0.25TB/node. In this way, it will scale properly with the memory 
> size.

We're using more than 2G before we've even completed do_basic_setup()? 
Where did it all go?

> Before the patch, the boot time from elilo prompt to ssh login was 694s. 
> After the patch, the boot up time was 346s, a saving of 348s (about 50%).

Having to guesstimate the amount of memory which is needed for a
successful boot will be painful.  Any number we choose will be wrong
99% of the time.

If the kswapd threads have started, all we need to do is to wait: take
a little nap in the allocator's page==NULL slowpath.

I'm not seeing any reason why we can't start kswapd much earlier -
right at the start of do_basic_setup()?
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