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Date:	Mon, 11 May 2015 23:32:28 +0200
From:	Paul Bolle <pebolle@...cali.nl>
To:	Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@...allels.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Bertrand Jacquin <beber@...eeweb.net>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...e.com>,
	Iulia Manda <iulia.manda21@...il.com>,
	Pranith Kumar <bobby.prani@...il.com>,
	Clark Williams <clark.williams@...il.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/1] init/Kconfig: Split expert menu into a separate
 file, init/Kconfig.expert

On Mon, 2015-05-11 at 14:18 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> However, that would produce *two* entries under the "General setup"
> menu: a yes/no entry "Configure standard kernel features (expert users)"
> with no submenu, and a "Some separate menu prompt here" entry with a
> submenu but no '[ ]' for a yes/no option.  Integrating the two (without
> using menuconfig's implicit "add stuff to submenu until an option's
> prompt doesn't depend on this symbol" magic) requires new a kconfig
> mechanism.

The diff pasted at the end of this message, which I quickly cobbled
together an applies on top of this 2/1, generates these two lines in
menuconfig (for EXPERT = 'y')
    [*] Configure standard kernel features (expert users)
        Standard kernel features  --->                   

Is squashing those two lines worth a new kconfig mechanism?

Thanks,


Paul Bolle

diff --git a/init/Kconfig b/init/Kconfig
index 06c585007964..dfb2a7405a83 100644
--- a/init/Kconfig
+++ b/init/Kconfig
@@ -1421,6 +1421,16 @@ config BPF_SYSCALL
 	  Enable the bpf() system call that allows to manipulate eBPF
 	  programs and maps via file descriptors.
 
+config EXPERT
+	bool "Configure standard kernel features (expert users)"
+	# Unhide debug options, to make the on-by-default options visible
+	select DEBUG_KERNEL
+	help
+	  This option allows certain base kernel options and settings
+          to be disabled or tweaked. This is for specialized
+          environments which can tolerate a "non-standard" kernel.
+          Only use this if you really know what you are doing.
+
 source init/Kconfig.expert
 
 config EMBEDDED
diff --git a/init/Kconfig.expert b/init/Kconfig.expert
index c84a3720164b..c5718f1dc978 100644
--- a/init/Kconfig.expert
+++ b/init/Kconfig.expert
@@ -1,22 +1,15 @@
-menuconfig EXPERT
-	bool "Configure standard kernel features (expert users)"
-	# Unhide debug options, to make the on-by-default options visible
-	select DEBUG_KERNEL
-	help
-	  This option allows certain base kernel options and settings
-          to be disabled or tweaked. This is for specialized
-          environments which can tolerate a "non-standard" kernel.
-          Only use this if you really know what you are doing.
+menu "Standard kernel features"
+	visible if EXPERT
 
 config UID16
-	bool "Enable 16-bit UID system calls" if EXPERT
+	bool "Enable 16-bit UID system calls"
 	depends on HAVE_UID16 && MULTIUSER
 	default y
 	help
 	  This enables the legacy 16-bit UID syscall wrappers.
 
 config MULTIUSER
-	bool "Multiple users, groups and capabilities support" if EXPERT
+	bool "Multiple users, groups and capabilities support"
 	default y
 	help
 	  This option enables support for non-root users, groups and
@@ -30,7 +23,7 @@ config MULTIUSER
 	  If unsure, say Y here.
 
 config SGETMASK_SYSCALL
-	bool "sgetmask/ssetmask syscalls support" if EXPERT
+	bool "sgetmask/ssetmask syscalls support"
 	def_bool PARISC || MN10300 || BLACKFIN || M68K || PPC || MIPS || X86 || SPARC || CRIS || MICROBLAZE || SUPERH
 	---help---
 	  sys_sgetmask and sys_ssetmask are obsolete system calls
@@ -40,7 +33,7 @@ config SGETMASK_SYSCALL
 	  If unsure, leave the default option here.
 
 config SYSFS_SYSCALL
-	bool "Sysfs syscall support" if EXPERT
+	bool "Sysfs syscall support"
 	default y
 	---help---
 	  sys_sysfs is an obsolete system call no longer supported in libc.
@@ -50,7 +43,7 @@ config SYSFS_SYSCALL
 	  If unsure say Y here.
 
 config SYSCTL_SYSCALL
-	bool "Sysctl syscall support" if EXPERT
+	bool "Sysctl syscall support"
 	depends on PROC_SYSCTL
 	default n
 	select SYSCTL
@@ -67,7 +60,7 @@ config SYSCTL_SYSCALL
 	  If unsure say N here.
 
 config KALLSYMS
-	 bool "Load all symbols for debugging/ksymoops" if EXPERT
+	 bool "Load all symbols for debugging/ksymoops"
 	 default y
 	 help
 	   Say Y here to let the kernel print out symbolic crash information and
@@ -93,7 +86,7 @@ config KALLSYMS_ALL
 
 config PRINTK
 	default y
-	bool "Enable support for printk" if EXPERT
+	bool "Enable support for printk"
 	select IRQ_WORK
 	help
 	  This option enables normal printk support. Removing it
@@ -103,7 +96,7 @@ config PRINTK
 	  strongly discouraged.
 
 config BUG
-	bool "BUG() support" if EXPERT
+	bool "BUG() support"
 	default y
 	help
           Disabling this option eliminates support for BUG and WARN, reducing
@@ -115,13 +108,13 @@ config BUG
 config ELF_CORE
 	depends on COREDUMP
 	default y
-	bool "Enable ELF core dumps" if EXPERT
+	bool "Enable ELF core dumps"
 	help
 	  Enable support for generating core dumps. Disabling saves about 4k.
 
 
 config PCSPKR_PLATFORM
-	bool "Enable PC-Speaker support" if EXPERT
+	bool "Enable PC-Speaker support"
 	depends on HAVE_PCSPKR_PLATFORM
 	select I8253_LOCK
 	default y
@@ -131,14 +124,14 @@ config PCSPKR_PLATFORM
 
 config BASE_FULL
 	default y
-	bool "Enable full-sized data structures for core" if EXPERT
+	bool "Enable full-sized data structures for core"
 	help
 	  Disabling this option reduces the size of miscellaneous core
 	  kernel data structures. This saves memory on small machines,
 	  but may reduce performance.
 
 config FUTEX
-	bool "Enable futex support" if EXPERT
+	bool "Enable futex support"
 	default y
 	select RT_MUTEXES
 	help
@@ -155,7 +148,7 @@ config HAVE_FUTEX_CMPXCHG
 	  checks.
 
 config EPOLL
-	bool "Enable eventpoll support" if EXPERT
+	bool "Enable eventpoll support"
 	default y
 	select ANON_INODES
 	help
@@ -163,7 +156,7 @@ config EPOLL
 	  support for epoll family of system calls.
 
 config SIGNALFD
-	bool "Enable signalfd() system call" if EXPERT
+	bool "Enable signalfd() system call"
 	select ANON_INODES
 	default y
 	help
@@ -173,7 +166,7 @@ config SIGNALFD
 	  If unsure, say Y.
 
 config TIMERFD
-	bool "Enable timerfd() system call" if EXPERT
+	bool "Enable timerfd() system call"
 	select ANON_INODES
 	default y
 	help
@@ -183,7 +176,7 @@ config TIMERFD
 	  If unsure, say Y.
 
 config EVENTFD
-	bool "Enable eventfd() system call" if EXPERT
+	bool "Enable eventfd() system call"
 	select ANON_INODES
 	default y
 	help
@@ -193,7 +186,7 @@ config EVENTFD
 	  If unsure, say Y.
 
 config SHMEM
-	bool "Use full shmem filesystem" if EXPERT
+	bool "Use full shmem filesystem"
 	default y
 	depends on MMU
 	help
@@ -204,7 +197,7 @@ config SHMEM
 	  which may be appropriate on small systems without swap.
 
 config AIO
-	bool "Enable AIO support" if EXPERT
+	bool "Enable AIO support"
 	default y
 	help
 	  This option enables POSIX asynchronous I/O which may by used
@@ -212,7 +205,7 @@ config AIO
 	  this option saves about 7k.
 
 config ADVISE_SYSCALLS
-	bool "Enable madvise/fadvise syscalls" if EXPERT
+	bool "Enable madvise/fadvise syscalls"
 	default y
 	help
 	  This option enables the madvise and fadvise syscalls, used by
@@ -223,9 +216,11 @@ config ADVISE_SYSCALLS
 
 config PCI_QUIRKS
 	default y
-	bool "Enable PCI quirk workarounds" if EXPERT
+	bool "Enable PCI quirk workarounds"
 	depends on PCI
 	help
 	  This enables workarounds for various PCI chipset
 	  bugs/quirks. Disable this only if your target machine is
 	  unaffected by PCI quirks.
+
+endmenu

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