Message-ID: <68165351.x47CMduWiL@avalon>
Date:	Tue, 12 May 2015 13:01:36 +0300
From:	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>
To:	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@...sung.com>
Cc:	Laura Abbott <lauraa@...eaurora.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	Mitchel Humpherys <mitchelh@...eaurora.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart+renesas@...asonboard.com>,
	Joreg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
	iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@...aro.org>,
	devicetree@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/4] Probe deferral for IOMMU DT integration

Hi Marek,

On Wednesday 04 March 2015 10:20:36 Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> On 2015-02-16 17:14, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Thursday 05 February 2015 16:31:58 Laura Abbott wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> On the heels of Exynos integrating SMMU in to the DT for probing,
> >> this series attempts to add support to make SMMU drivers work with
> >> deferred probing. This has been referenced before[1] but this is
> >> some actual code to use as a starting point for discussion.
> >> 
> >> The requirement for this is based on a previous patch to add clock
> >> support to the ARM SMMU driver[2]. Once we have clock support, it's
> >> possible that the driver itself may need to be defered which breaks
> >> a bunch of assumptions about how SMMU probing is supposed to work.
> >> The concept here is to have the driver call of_dma_configure which
> >> may return -EPROBE_DEFER. of_dma_configure could possibly be moved
> >> up to probe level. The existing method of initialization still needs
> >> to be done as well which might mean we have the worst of both worlds.
> >> 
> >> Open questions:
> >> - This still doesn't really address Arnd's concerns[3] about disabling
> >> IOMMUs
> > 
> > Arnd, Will and I have discussed IOMMU probe deferral last week. Here's a
> > summary of the discussion, before the details blur away.
> > 
> > The discussion covered both higher level concepts and lower level details,
> > in various directions. I'll try to make the summary clear by filling the
> > gaps between pieces where needed, so some of the information below might
> > not be a direct result of the discussions. Arnd and Will, please feel
> > free to correct me.
> > 
> > The first question we've discussed was whether probe deferral for IOMMUs
> > is really needed. Various dependencies between IOMMU devices and other
> > devices exist, in particular on clocks (as you have mentioned above) and
> > on power domains (as mentioned by Marek in
> > http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2015-February/32323
> > 8.html). While there are mechanism to handle some of them with probe
> > deferral (for instance by using the OF_DECLARE macros to register clock
> > drivers), generalizing those mechanisms would essentially recreate a
> > probe ordering mechanism similar to link order probe ordering and
> > couldn't really scale.
> > 
> > Additionally, IOMMUs could also be present hot-pluggable devices and
> > depend on resources that are thus hot-plugged. OF_DECLARE wouldn't help
> > in that case. For all those reasons we have concluded that probe deferral
> > for IOMMUs is desired if it can be implemented cleanly.
> > 
> > The second question we've discussed was how to implement probe deferral
> > cleanly :-)
> > 
> > The current implementation configures DMA at device creation time and sets
> > the following properties:
> > 
> > - dma_map_ops (IOMMU, SWIOTLB, linear mapping)
> > - initial DMA mask
> > - DMA offset
> > - DMA coherency
> > 
> > Additionally the IOMMU group (when an IOMMU is present) will also be
> > configured at the same time (patches are under review).
> > 
> > The base idea is to defer probing of bus master devices when their IOMMU
> > isn't present. Three cases need to be handled.
> > 
> > 1. No IOMMU is declared by the firmware (through DT, ACPI, ...) for the
> > bus master device. The bus master device probe doesn't need to be deferred
> > due to the IOMMU. dma_map_ops must be set to SWIOTLB or linear mapping
> > (the later should likely be implemented through SWIOTLB).
> > 
> > 2. An IOMMU is declared for the bus master device and the IOMMU has been
> > successfully probed and registered. The bus master device probe doesn't
> > need to be deferred due to the IOMMU. dma_map_ops must be set to IOMMU
> > ops.
> > 
> > 3. An IOMMU is declared for the bus master device but the IOMMU isn't
> > registered. This can be caused by different reasons:
> > 
> > - a. No driver is loaded for this IOMMU (for instance because DT describes
> > the IOMMU connection, but the IOMMU driver hasn't been developed yet, or
> > an older kernel is used). If the IOMMU is optional the bus master device
> > probe should succeed, and dma_map_ops should be set to linear. If the
> > IOMMU is mandatory the bus master device probe should fail.
> > 
> > Note that, as we require IOMMU drivers to be compiled in, we don't need to
> > handle the case of loadable IOMMU drivers that haven't been loaded yet.
> > 
> > - b. A driver is loaded for this IOMMU but the IOMMU hasn't been probed
> > yet, or its probe has been deferred. The bus master device probe should
> > be deferred.
> > 
> > - c. A driver is loaded for this IOMMU but the IOMMU probe has failed
> > permanently. It's not clear at the moment whether we should try to recover
> > from this automatically using the same mechanism as case 3.a, or if we can
> > considered this as an abnormal failure and disable the bus master device.
> > 
> > Assuming that we should try to recover from such an error, we can't
> > predict this case when the device is instantiated (even if IOMMUs are
> > registered before bus master devices are added, for instance using the
> > OF_DECLARE mechanism that Will has implemented). We thus need to setup the
> > dma_map_ops and IOMMU group at bus master device probe time.
> > 
> > Furthermore, we can't distinguish cases 3.a and 3.b at bus master probe
> > time without early registration of IOMMU drivers. Case 3.a would instead
> > be considered as 3.b, leading to infinite probe deferral of bus master
> > devices.
> > 
> > For those reasons we have concluded that IOMMU probe deferral needs to be
> > implemented with a combination of several mechanisms. The following steps
> > should happen at bus master device probe time.
> > 
> > 1. The IOMMU device referenced by the firmware with the bus master device
> > is looked up. On DT-based systems, this will be the IOMMU DT node
> > referenced by the iommus property. If no IOMMU device is associated,
> > dma_map_ops will be set to linear mapping or SWIOTLB and device probe
> > will continue.
> > 
> > 2. An IOMMU device is referenced for the bus master device.
> > 
> > The corresponding IOMMU instance is looked up. This requires a new IOMMU
> > registration system. IOMMU drivers will create IOMMU instances at probe
> > time and register them with the IOMMU core.
> > 
> > If an IOMMU instance is found for the referenced IOMMU device, the IOMMU
> > instance's of_xlate function will be called to setup the IOMMU.
> > 
> > If the of_xlate call succeeds dma_map_ops will be set to IOMMU ops and
> > device probe will continue. If the call fails we can either fail the bus
> > master device probe, or fall back to non-IOMMU dma_map_ops (to be
> > discussed).
> > 
> > 3. The IOMMU device referenced for the bus master device isn't present,
> > due to the IOMMU device probe not having been performed yet, having been
> > deferred, or having failed.
> > 
> > The IOMMU driver associated with the IOMMU device is looked up. This was
> > initially thought to require an early registration mechanism for IOMMU
> > drivers (using an OF_DECLARE mechanism for DT-based systems for
> > instance), but on second thought it might be possible to implement this
> > based on normal driver registration (to be researched).
> > 
> > If an IOMMU driver is found for the referenced IOMMU device, a callback
> > function of the IOMMU driver is called to check whether an IOMMU instance
> > is expected to be registered later (most IOMMU drivers will just return
> > true, so we could skip this callback function until an IOMMU driver
> > requires it). If an IOMMU instance is expected to be registered later the
> > bus master device probe is deferred. Otherwise dma_map_ops will be set to
> > linear mapping/SWIOTLB and device probe will continue.
> > 
> > 
> > The initial DMA mask and the DMA offset can still be configured at device
> > instantiation time if desired.
> 
> I'm sorry for not participating in the discussions, I was terribly busy
> with our internal stuff.

No worries, I know the feeling. My reply is two months later :-/

> The approach you have described looks fine although I would like also to
> know a bit more about the roadmap of development. The IOMMU integration is
> being discussed for over 2 years and right now we are STILL discussing.
> 
> Do you plan to post any patches implementing this approach? I would
> really like to merge something simple, maybe not fully optimized and then
> resolve all the corner cases and possible integration details.

I secretly hoped that someone would beat me to it but that wasn't the case. I 
started giving it a go, and I'll try to post patches soon. It will be an RFC 
though.

> >> - Currently tested where we knew the driver was going to be deferring.
> >> Probably need some logic for calling of_dma_configure again.
> >> 
> >> This is based on Robin Murphy's work for dma mapping[4] and a few
> >> patches from Murali Kaicheri[5] for of_dma_configure.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> [1] http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/iommu/2015-> >> January/011764.html
> >> [2] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2014-> >> August/279036.html
> >> [3] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2014-> >> December/311579.html
> >> [4] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2015-> >> January/315459.html
> >> [5] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2015-> >> January/319390.html
> >> 
> >> Laura Abbott (3):
> >>    dma-mapping: Make arch_setup_dma_ops return an error code
> >>    of: Return error codes from of_dma_configure
> >>    iommu/arm-smmu: Support deferred probing
> >> 
> >> Mitchel Humpherys (1):
> >>    iommu/arm-smmu: add support for specifying clocks
> >>   
> >>   arch/arm/include/asm/dma-mapping.h   |   2 +-
> >>   arch/arm/mm/dma-mapping.c            |   4 +-
> >>   arch/arm64/include/asm/dma-mapping.h |   2 +-
> >>   arch/arm64/mm/dma-mapping.c          |  16 +--
> >>   drivers/iommu/arm-smmu.c             | 186 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> >>   drivers/iommu/iommu.c                |  49 ++++++++-
> >>   drivers/iommu/of_iommu.c             |  14 ++-
> >>   drivers/of/device.c                  |   9 +-
> >>   include/linux/dma-mapping.h          |   7 +-
> >>   include/linux/iommu.h                |   2 +
> >>   include/linux/of_device.h            |   4 +-
> >>   11 files changed, 268 insertions(+), 27 deletions(-)

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

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