linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/5] arm64: Juno: Split juno.dts into juno-base.dtsi and juno.dts.

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Message-ID: <1431611419.2881.44.camel@linaro.org>
Date:	Thu, 14 May 2015 14:50:19 +0100
From:	"Jon Medhurst (Tixy)" <tixy@...aro.org>
To:	Liviu Dudau <Liviu.Dudau@....com>
Cc:	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, Olof Johansson <olof@...om.net>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@....com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk>,
	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@....com>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@....com>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@....com>,
	Sudeep Holla <Sudeep.Holla@....com>,
	devicetree <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
	LAKML <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] arm64: Juno: Split juno.dts into juno-base.dtsi and
 juno.dts.

On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 14:11 +0100, Liviu Dudau wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:04:31PM +0100, Jon Medhurst (Tixy) wrote:
> > On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 11:30 +0100, Liviu Dudau wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:35:42AM +0100, Jon Medhurst (Tixy) wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > What criteria were used to select the contents of juno-base.dtsi?
> > > > From what I can see, the stuff left out of base is still the same for r0
> > > > and r1 (cpu, pmu, memory, psci!).
> > [...]
> > > 
> > > There are potential differences. Cortex-A53 cluster in r1 has limited
> > > CPUfreq functionality due to a chip errata and there were talks internally
> > > to actually disable it, hence the reason for keeping CPUs outside the
> > > juno-base.dtsi. r2 will have a different set of big CPUs as well, so this
> > > is preparing for the future as well.
> > > 
> > > PMU are linked to the CPUs, hence the reason they stayed. As for the
> > > memory and psci nodes the thinking behind it was mostly to allow for
> > > ACPI to make changes there, but it does look now like retrofitting an
> > > explanation to something that I did not give too much thought at that
> > > moment.
> > 
> > I guess my concern was motivated by the selfish aspect of having to
> > maintain a bunch of out-of-tree Juno patches (like cpuidle and cpufreq
> > related DT updates) and having to duplicate those in more than one DT,
> > and also having backport DT reorgs like this patch. Of course, none of
> > that should be a consideration in deciding what goes into mainline, I
> > just wanted to make sure there was a reason for the patch.
> 
> You are probably the best placed engineer to offer feedback on these patches,
> as it will affect you in the downstream.
> 
> Given that cpufreq will have limited ranges for Juno r1 (~200MHz spread) and
> that HMP/EAS will not be working optimally on R1, do you still want to see
> the CPUs nodes moved into juno-base.dtsi?

Well, I can only answer that if I knew what the requirements were for
the kernels I maintain, and as I'm unlikely to get any sensible answer,
or one that doesn't change depending on the day of the week or the
person I ask, then I think it probably best that we have the greatest
flexibility and have the cpu-nodes in separate files as you plan. I can
always carry a patch to make juno-r1.dts #include juno.dts if that makes
my life easier ;-) Hopefully the cpufreq and cpuidle stuff will find it
way into mainline in a kernel version or two anyway.

-- 
Tixy

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