linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/8] ARM: mvebu: Add support for RAID6 PQ offloading

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:	Mon, 18 May 2015 10:06:55 -0700
From:	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
To:	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@...e-electrons.com>
Cc:	Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@...el.com>,
	Gregory Clement <gregory.clement@...e-electrons.com>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@...edaemon.net>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
	Sebastian Hesselbarth <sebastian.hesselbarth@...il.com>,
	"dmaengine@...r.kernel.org" <dmaengine@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org, Lior Amsalem <alior@...vell.com>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas@...e-electrons.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] ARM: mvebu: Add support for RAID6 PQ offloading

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:14 AM, Maxime Ripard
<maxime.ripard@...e-electrons.com> wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 09:00:46AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 2:17 AM, Maxime Ripard
>> <maxime.ripard@...e-electrons.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Dan,
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 09:05:41AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> >> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Maxime Ripard
>> >> <maxime.ripard@...e-electrons.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > This serie refactors the mv_xor in order to support the latest Armada
>> >> > 38x features, including the PQ support in order to offload the RAID6
>> >> > PQ operations.
>> >> >
>> >> > Not all the PQ operations are supported by the XOR engine, so we had
>> >> > to introduce new async_tx flags in the process to identify
>> >> > un-supported operations.
>> >> >
>> >> > Please note that this is currently not usable because of a possible
>> >> > regression in the RAID stack in 4.1 that is being discussed at the
>> >> > moment here: https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/5/7/527
>> >>
>> >> This is problematic as async_tx is a wart on the dmaengine subsystem
>> >> and needs to be deprecated, I just have yet to find the time to do
>> >> that work.  It turns out it was a mistake to hide the device details
>> >> from md, it should be explicitly managing the dma channels, not
>> >> relying on a abstraction api.  The async_tx api usage of the
>> >> dma-mapping api is broken in that it relies on overlapping mappings of
>> >> the same address.  This happens to work on x86, but on arm it needs
>> >> explicit non-overlapping mappings.  I started the work to reference
>> >> count dma-mappings in 3.13, and we need to teach md to use
>> >> dmaengine_unmap_data explicitly.  Yielding dma channel management to
>> >> md also results in a more efficient implementation as we can dma_map()
>> >> the stripe cache once rather than per-io.  The  "async_tx_ack()"
>> >> disaster can also go away when md is explicitly handling channel
>> >> switching.
>> >
>> > Even though I'd be very much in favor of deprecating / removing
>> > async_tx, is it something likely to happen soon?
>>
>> Not unless someone else takes it on, I'm actively asking for help.
>>
>> > I remember discussing this with Vinod at Plumbers back in October, but
>> > haven't seen anything since then.
>>
>> Right, "help!" :)
>>
>> > If not, I think that we shouldn't really hold back patches to
>> > async_tx, even though we know than in a year from now, it's going to
>> > be gone.
>>
>> We definitely should block new usages, because they make a bad
>> situation worse.  Russell already warned that the dma_mapping api
>> abuse could lead to data corruption on ARM (speculative pre-fetching).
>> We need to mark ASYNC_TX_DMA as "depends on !ARM" or even "depends on
>> BROKEN" until we can get this resolved.
>
> I'm not sure what the issues exactly are with async_tx and ARM, but
> these patches have been tested on ARM and are working quite well.

https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/7/8/363

> What I'm doing here is merely using the existing API, I'm not making
> it worse, just using the API that is used by numerous drivers
> already. So I'm not sure this is really reasonable to ask for such a
> huge rework (with a huge potential of regressions) before merging my
> patches.

It happens.

https://lwn.net/Articles/641443/

I'm not happy about not having had the time to do this rework myself.
Linux is better off with this api deprecated.
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/