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Message-ID: <CA+55aFy_a8d3rRFRpS6y_kpjzB0baX36eoAz8hA3rS4cGWojQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 19 May 2015 11:01:57 -0700
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
	Michal Marek <mmarek@...e.cz>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
	Abelardo Ricart III <aricart@...nix.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@...il.com>, keyrings@...ux-nfs.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>
Subject: Re: Should we automatically generate a module signing key at all?

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> wrote:
>
> Throwing away the key is outright impossible in some contexts.
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds

Bah. That's just stupid.

Sure, if you have to use "cmp" to compare your builds, you can't embed
random one-time keys. Tough.

That's a problem with your environment, and not a technical argument,
it's a political one.

I couldn't care less. "Doctor, doctor, it hurts when I use a stapler
on my forehead".

Debian has lots of "rules". That doesn't make it right.

                 Linus
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