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Message-ID: <20150521121218.GA18887@gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 21 May 2015 14:12:18 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Michal Marek <mmarek@...e.cz>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
	live-patching@...r.kernel.org,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@...hat.com>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@...il.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/3] Compile-time stack frame pointer validation


* Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org> wrote:

> Especially on modern x86 CPUs with stack engines (latest Intel and 
> AMD CPUs) that keeps ESP updates out of the later stages of 
> execution pipelines, going from RBP framepointers to direct ESP use 
> is beneficial to performance and compresses I$ footprint as well:
> 
>     text           data     bss      dec            hex filename
> 12150606        2565544 1634304 16350454         f97cf6 linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/vmlinux
> 13282884        2571744 1617920 17472548        10a9c24 linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/vmlinux

Correction: I ran that with a 1-byte alignment patch still applied.

I reran all the numbers with the default 16-bytes alignment as well, 
and the gap between framepointers and no-framepointers become smaller, 
but the various trends and conclusions still hold.

Here are the updated numbers:

     text           data     bss      dec            hex filename
 13548564        2571744 1617920 17738228        10ea9f4 linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/vmlinux
 13797773        2571744 1617920 17987437        112776d linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/vmlinux

> Here's the I$ cachemiss rate with the 'vfs-mix' workload that I used 
> in the -falign-functions measuremenst gives this for 
> CONFIG_FRAMEPOINTERS=y, on Intel Sandy Bridge (best of 9x10 runs):
> 
>  #
>  # CONFIG_FRAMEPOINTERS=y
>  #
>  Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (10 runs):
> 
>        728,328,347      L1-icache-load-misses                                         ( +-  0.08% )  (100.00%)
>     11,891,931,664      instructions                                                  ( +-  0.00% )
>            300,023      context-switches                                              ( +-  0.00% )
> 
>        7.324048170 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.09% )


 Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (10 runs):

       701,525,006      L1-icache-load-misses                                         ( +-  0.06% )  (100.00%)
    11,891,793,196      instructions                                                  ( +-  0.01% )
           300,036      context-switches                                              ( +-  0.00% )

       7.354372294 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.82% )

> 
> ... and these are the I$ miss perf stats from running the same 
> workload on a CONFIG_FRAMEPOINTERS=n kernel:
> 
>  #
>  # CONFIG_FRAMEPOINTERS are not set
>  #
>  Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (10 runs):
> 
>        687,758,078      L1-icache-load-misses                                         ( +-  0.10% )  (100.00%)
>     10,984,908,013      instructions                                                  ( +-  0.01% )
>            300,021      context-switches                                              ( +-  0.00% )
> 
>        7.120867260 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.29% )

 Performance counter stats for 'system wide' (10 runs):

       685,107,089      L1-icache-load-misses                                         ( +-  0.08% )  (100.00%)
    10,983,861,590      instructions                                                  ( +-  0.01% )
           300,031      context-switches                                              ( +-  0.00% )

       7.120738452 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.35% )

> So if we disable frame pointers, then on this workload:
> 
>   - the kernel text size is 9.3% smaller
>   - the number of instructions executed went down by about 8.2%
>   - the cachemiss rate went down by about 5.9%
>   - performance went up by about 2.8%.

    - the kernel text size is 1.8% smaller: with 16 bytes alignment 
      there's quite some extra free space the frame pointer code can 
      grow into, which reduces the size win.

    - the number of instructions executed went down by about 8.2% (as 
      expected this is invariant of alignment.)

    - the cachemiss rate went down by about 2.7%: this is a smaller 
      win again, partly because of the 'free space' 16-byte alignment 
      gives us.

    - the best 'time elapsed' numbers out of 10 runs show a speedup of 
      2.0% - close to the 2.8% with 1-byte alignment.

> The speedup is actually even better than 2.8%, if you look at 
> average execution time:
> 
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res.txt:       7.324048170 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.09% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res.txt:       7.470166715 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  1.01% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res.txt:       7.365047474 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.25% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res.txt:       7.828223324 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  2.04% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res.txt:       7.427164489 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.70% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res.txt:       7.385565350 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.35% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res.txt:       7.560782318 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  1.68% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res.txt:       7.399741309 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.74% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res.txt:       7.303746766 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.04% )
> 
>  avg = 7.451609

linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res2.txt:       7.300875812 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.17% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res2.txt:       7.491652338 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  1.33% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res2.txt:       7.307877300 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.20% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res2.txt:       7.258946461 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.23% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res2.txt:       7.295113779 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.30% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res2.txt:       7.283375859 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.21% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res2.txt:       7.319320205 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.38% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res2.txt:       7.354372294 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.82% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res2.txt:       7.308955558 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.26% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=y/res2.txt:       7.295267101 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.26% )

avg=7.32

> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res.txt:       7.201498813 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.86% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res.txt:       7.120867260 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.29% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res.txt:       7.141642635 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.15% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res.txt:       7.217213506 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.85% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res.txt:       7.163046581 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.56% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res.txt:       7.128939439 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.23% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res.txt:       7.256172853 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.82% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res.txt:       7.122946768 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.23% )
> linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res.txt:       7.126018578 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.18% )
> 
>  avg = 7.164260

linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res2.txt:       7.135061084 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.39% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res2.txt:       7.132738388 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.34% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res2.txt:       7.174334895 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.32% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res2.txt:       7.215143851 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.71% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res2.txt:       7.131166029 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.19% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res2.txt:       7.270427197 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  1.22% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res2.txt:       7.120738452 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.35% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res2.txt:       7.168856127 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.27% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res2.txt:       7.268637173 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  1.28% )
linux-CONFIG_FRAME_POINTERS=n/res2.txt:       7.178431781 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.32% )

avg=7.18

> Then with framepointers disabled this workload gets faster by 4.0% 
> on average.

With 16-byte alignment the average gets faster by 2.8%.

The conclusions are unchanged:

> The average result is also pretty stable in the no-framepointers 
> case, while it fluctuates more in the framepointers case. (and this 
> is why the 'best runtime' favors the framepointers case - the 
> average is closer to reality.)
> 
> So the performance advantages of not doing framepointers is not 
> something we can ignore IMHO: but obviously performance isn't 
> everything - so if stack unwinding is unrobust, then we need and 
> want frame pointers.

Thanks,

	Ingo
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