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Message-ID: <20150522074136.GB23022@pd.tnic>
Date:	Fri, 22 May 2015 09:41:36 +0200
From:	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
To:	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
Cc:	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...not-panic.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, clemens@...isch.de,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
	JBottomley@...n.com, David Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@....samsung.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@...tmann.org>,
	"Gustavo F. Padovan" <gustavo@...ovan.org>,
	Johan Hedberg <johan.hedberg@...il.com>,
	Mikael Starvik <starvik@...s.com>,
	Jesper Nilsson <jesper.nilsson@...s.com>,
	Imre Kaloz <kaloz@...nwrt.org>, khalasa@...p.pl,
	ohad@...ery.com, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, 3chas3@...il.com,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@...e.cz>, Bryan Wu <cooloney@...il.com>,
	Richard Purdie <rpurdie@...ys.net>,
	Jacek Anaszewski <j.anaszewski@...sung.com>,
	Paul Bolle <pebolle@...cali.nl>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1] tree-wide: remove "select FW_LOADER" uses

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 09:11:34AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> That's what the EXPERT protection is for.
> FW_LOADER will always be enabled, unless people think they're smarter
> than they are, and enable EXPERT, and disable FW_LOADER.

I know. I was just making the negative aspect of "depends" vs "select"
in that particular case, explicit. Just so that it is mentioned in the
conversation.

> If you want to boot randconfig kernels, create an allrandomconfig file
> listing all options that must have a certain value:
> 
> $ cat allrandomconfig
> CONFIG_EXPERT=n
> CONFIG_MY_CRITICAL_FEATURE=y
> ...
> $
> 
> and use "make randconfig KCONFIG_ALLCONFIG=1".

I do that but does everyone who builds randconfigs? I had to go and look
what variables Kbuild honors and prep an all.config and yadda yadda...

So maybe we should put that as a note somewhere for randconfig-building
people.

> You trimmed too much, so I had to readd it manually ;-)

Yeah, that's what mail threads are for.

People tend to reply to a huuge mail with one sentence, bury it
somewhere on page gazillion and one and not trim the rest. Antisocial
behavior, that. :-P

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

ECO tip #101: Trim your mails when you reply.
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