linux-kernel - Re: [Linux-nvdimm] [PATCH v2 08/20] libnd, nd_acpi: regions (block-data-window, persistent memory, volatile memory)

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Date:	Thu, 28 May 2015 16:51:25 -0400
From:	Linda Knippers <linda.knippers@...com>
To:	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
	Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@...com>
CC:	"linux-nvdimm@...ts.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@...ts.01.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@...e.de>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
	Robert Moore <robert.moore@...el.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Subject: Re: [Linux-nvdimm] [PATCH v2 08/20] libnd, nd_acpi: regions (block-data-window,
 persistent memory, volatile memory)

On 5/28/2015 3:59 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@...com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2015-05-09 at 16:55 -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@...com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2015-04-28 at 14:24 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
>>  :
>>>>
>>>> The libnd does not support memdev->flags, which contains "Memory Device
>>>> State Flags" defined in Table 5-129 of ACPI 6.0.  In case of major
>>>> errors, we should only allow a failed NVDIMM be accessed with read-only
>>>> for possible data recovery (or not allow any access when the data is
>>>> completely lost), and should not let users operate normally over the
>>>> corrupted data until the error is dealt properly.
>>>
>>> I agree with setting read-only access when these flags show that the
>>> battery is not ready to persist new writes, but I don't think we
>>> should block access in the case where the restore from flash failed.
>>> If the data is potentially corrupted we should log that fact, but
>>> otherwise enable access.  I.e. potentially corrupt data is better than
>>> unavailable data.  It's up to filesystem or application to maintain
>>> its own checksums to catch data corruption.
>>>
>>>> Can you set memdev->flags to nd_region(_desc) so that the pmem driver
>>>> can check the status in nd_pmem_probe()?  nd_pmem_probe() can then set
>>>> the disk read-only or fail probing, and log errors accordingly.
>>>
>>> Will do.
>>
>> I do not see this change in v4.  Is this part of the pending changes
>> behind this release?
> 
> Yes, I was holding it off until we had an upstream acceptance baseline
> set.  That is on hold pending Christoph's review.  He's looking to
> come back next Wednesday with deeper review comments.  The runway to
> land this in v4.2 is running short...

Hi Dan,

Do you have a short list of pending changes, especially if some weren't
discussed on the list?  That might help reviewers.

I know we're still looking at and trying a number of things, like using
the BTT on today's NVDIMMs and adding another example DSM, so we will
have more feedback and patches and may need to adapt some of the
structure to do that.  This can happen after the initial patches are
pulled in but I just wanted to let you know where we are.  Not sure
about others.

-- ljk


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