linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH] perf: Add PERF_RECORD_SWITCH to indicate context switches

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Message-ID: <20150611165449.GM3644@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:	Thu, 11 Jun 2015 18:54:49 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>,
	mathieu.poirier@...aro.org, Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@....com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] perf: Add PERF_RECORD_SWITCH to indicate context
 switches

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 09:34:30AM -0700, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 04:15:48PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 05:21:10PM +0300, Adrian Hunter wrote:
> > > Tracepoints are no good at all for non-privileged users
> > > because they need either CAP_SYS_ADMIN or
> > > /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid <= -1.
> > > 
> > > On the other hand, kernel software events need either
> > > CAP_SYS_ADMIN or /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid <= 1.
> > 
> > So while I think it makes sense to allow some tracepoint outside of that
> > priv level, IOW have a per tracepoint priv level filter thingy, I don't
> > think sched_switch() is one of those because it explicitly exposes
> > timing information on other tasks.
> 
> It's trivial for a running program to measure when it gets context switched
> by looking at timing.  I don't think this event provides anything new over that.

The _existing_ ones expose timing of _other_ tasks, the proposed one does
not.
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