linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 4/5] x86/asm/entry/32: Replace RESTORE_RSI_RDI[

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:	Tue, 16 Jun 2015 02:24:35 +0200
From:	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@...hat.com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
CC:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>,
	Will Drewry <wad@...omium.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, x86@...nel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] x86/asm/entry/32: Replace RESTORE_RSI_RDI[_RDX] with
 open-coded 32-bit reads

On 06/15/2015 10:20 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> Actually, ecx and r11 need to be loaded first. They are not so much "restored" 
>> as "prepared for SYSRET insn". Every cycle lost in loading these delays SYSRET. 
>> [...]
> 
> So in the typical case they will still be cached, and so their max latency should 
> be around 3 cycles.

If syscall flushes caches (say, a large read), or sleeps
and CPU schedules away, then pt_regs->ip,flags are evicted
and need to be reloaded.

> In fact because they are memory loads, they don't really have dependencies,
> they should be available to SYSRET almost immediately,

They depend on the memory data.

> i.e. within a cycle - and 
> there's no reason to believe why these loads wouldn't pipeline properly and 
> parallelize with the many other things SYSRET has to do to organize a return to 
> user-space, before it can actually use the target RIP and RFLAGS.

This does not sound right.

If it takes, say, 20 cycles to pull data from e.g. L3 cache to ECX,
then SYSRET can't possibly complete sooner than in 20 cycles.

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/