linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 3/5] vhost: support upto 509 memory regions

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Message-ID: <20150617193210.390228a4@igors-macbook-pro.local>
Date:	Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:32:10 +0200
From:	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@...hat.com>
To:	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>
Cc:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] vhost: support upto 509 memory regions

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:47:18 +0200
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> On 17/06/2015 18:41, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 06:38:25PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 17/06/2015 18:34, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 06:31:32PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 17/06/2015 18:30, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>>> Meanwhile old tools are vulnerable to OOM attacks.
> >>>>
> >>>> For each vhost device there will be likely one tap interface,
> >>>> and I suspect that it takes way, way more than 16KB of memory.
> >>>
> >>> That's not true. We have a vhost device per queue, all queues
> >>> are part of a single tap device.
> >>
> >> s/tap/VCPU/ then.  A KVM VCPU also takes more than 16KB of memory.
> > 
> > That's up to you as a kvm maintainer :)
> 
> Not easy, when the CPU alone requires three (albeit non-consecutive)
> pages for the VMCS, the APIC access page and the EPT root.
> 
> > People are already concerned about vhost device
> > memory usage, I'm not happy to define our user/kernel interface
> > in a way that forces even more memory to be used up.
> 
> So, the questions to ask are:
> 
> 1) What is the memory usage like immediately after vhost is brought
> up, apart from these 16K?
> 
> 2) Is there anything in vhost that allocates a user-controllable
> amount of memory?
> 
> 3) What is the size of the data structures that support one virtqueue
> (there are two of them)?  Does it depend on the size of the
> virtqueues?
> 
> 4) Would it make sense to share memory regions between multiple vhost
> devices?  Would it be hard to implement?  It would also make memory
> operations O(1) rather than O(#cpus).
> 
> Paolo

in addition to that could vhost share memmap with KVM i.e. use its
memslots instead of duplicating it?
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