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Message-ID: <6798439.9m13YiNnBb@merkaba>
Date:	Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:43:33 +0200
From:	Martin Steigerwald <martin@...htvoll.de>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@...ndz.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Havoc Pennington <havoc.pennington@...il.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>, Daniel Mack <daniel@...que.org>
Subject: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge?

Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2015, 10:05:02 schrieb Ingo Molnar:
> Not because I like it so much, but because I think the merge process
> should be  stripped of politics and emotion as much as possible: if an
> initial submission is good and addresses all technical review properly,
> and if the cost to the core kernel is low, then barring alternative,
> fully equivalent and superior patch submissions, rejecting it does more
> harm than good.

Now that is an interesting challenge.

As I realize more and more we are all feeling beings.

Linus himself according to his own words as I received them wants to make 
perfectly sure that the developer who receives a message from him exactly 
knows how he feels, especially when he disagrees with a pull request and 
does not want to take it.

To my perception the whole kernel development process is quite full of 
emotion, including your message I reply to.

And now you want to get rid of it.

I bet you can.


If you remove Linus… and every other kernel developer from the development 
process, including yourself.

But then, who will develop the kernel?


I think a different way to handle emotions can help and I intend handle them 
this way to see what results I create this way. I am aiming to feel my 
feelings as they are, instead of immediately judging them or attaching a 
thought to them basically making them emotions and distorting them that way, 
blocking my energy in them [1].

So I will attempt to feel my feelings before I answer again. I didn´t do so 
in the last answer to you, and I think it shows.



[1] Arnold M. Patent, "You can have it all"

Thanks,
-- 
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