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Message-ID: <87r3p1ar0c.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
Date:	Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:41:07 -0500
From:	ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To:	David Lang <david@...g.hm>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Martin Steigerwald <martin@...htvoll.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@...ndz.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Havoc Pennington <havoc.pennington@...il.com>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>, Daniel Mack <daniel@...que.org>
Subject: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge?

David Lang <david@...g.hm> writes:

> On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
>> And the thing is, in hindsight, after such huge flamewars, years down the line,
>> almost never do I see the following question asked: 'what were we thinking merging
>> that crap??'. If any question arises it's usually along the lines of: 'what was
>> the big fuss about?'. So I think by and large the process works.
>
> counterexamples, devfs, tux

The biggest I can think of cgroups.

The way cgroups connect to processes instead of resources (semantically)
and the fact that controllers are different from fundamental entities
like schedulers.

Of course I don't think "What were we thinking" I remember it all too
well in that case.

I think "What do we do now that we have made this mess".

Eric

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