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Message-ID: <20150626221517.GB2761@kroah.com>
Date:	Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:15:17 -0700
From:	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Cc:	Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>, linux-usb@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-input@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] usbhid: enable autosuspend for internal devices

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 04:08:20PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> 
> > This policy used to be unconditionally applied by udev, but there
> > is no reason to make userspace be involved in this and in the future
> > udev will not be doing it by default.
> > 
> > See: <https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/353>.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>
> > Cc: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>
> > Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
> > ---
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I don't have the right hardware for this, so it has only been compile-tested.
> > I'm therefore sending it as an RFC only. Mainly I want to bring it to people's
> > attention that it would be great to get this feature into the kernel as we want
> > to drop it from udev.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> >  drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c | 3 +++
> >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c b/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c
> > index bfbe1be..af80700 100644
> > --- a/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c
> > +++ b/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c
> > @@ -1358,6 +1358,9 @@ static int usbhid_probe(struct usb_interface *intf, const struct usb_device_id *
> >  	setup_timer(&usbhid->io_retry, hid_retry_timeout, (unsigned long) hid);
> >  	spin_lock_init(&usbhid->lock);
> >  
> > +	if (dev->removable == USB_DEVICE_FIXED)
> > +		usb_enable_autosuspend(dev);
> 
> This doesn't do what the patch title says.  USB_DEVICE_FIXED means that
> the device can't be unplugged from its upstream port.  It doesn't mean
> the device is internal to the computer.
> 
> As an example, consider a composite Apple keyboard, which has an
> internal 3-port USB hub where two of the hub's ports are exposed on the
> edge of the keyboard case and the keyboard controller is permanently
> attached to the third hub port.  Then the controller device would be
> marked USB_DEVICE_FIXED, even though the whole thing is external to
> the computer and can be unplugged.
> 

Is that really how those devices are marked?  I can't find any of my
keyboard with hubs that mark things that way.

> A reasonable compromise might be
> 
> 	/*
> 	 * Enable autosuspend for devices permanently attached
> 	 * to the root hub.
> 	 */
> 	if (!dev->parent->parent && dev->removable == USB_DEVICE_FIXED)
> 		usb_enable_autosuspend(dev);
> 
> But this doesn't work if there's a permanently attached hub and a
> device permanently attached to that hub.  To do this thoroughly, you
> have to iterate up the dev->parent chain, making sure at each step that 
> the ->removable value is USB_DEVICE_FIXED.
> 
> Also, are you really certain this is safe?  Aren't there a number of 
> built-in keyboards that will work badly if you allow them to 
> autosuspend?

udev has been doing this for a while now by default, with no reports of
problems, so I think we should be safe.

thanks,

greg k-h
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