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Message-ID: <55925FD5.7030205@huawei.com>
Date:	Tue, 30 Jun 2015 17:22:29 +0800
From:	Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@...wei.com>
To:	Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>
CC:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@...el.com>,
	Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@...wei.com>,
	Xiexiuqi <xiexiuqi@...wei.com>, <leon@...n.nu>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@...jp.nec.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 PATCH 2/8] mm: introduce MIGRATE_MIRROR to manage the
 mirrored pages

On 2015/6/30 15:53, Kamezawa Hiroyuki wrote:

> On 2015/06/30 11:45, Xishi Qiu wrote:
>> On 2015/6/29 15:32, Kamezawa Hiroyuki wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015/06/27 11:24, Xishi Qiu wrote:
>>>> This patch introduces a new migratetype called "MIGRATE_MIRROR", it is used to
>>>> allocate mirrored pages.
>>>> When cat /proc/pagetypeinfo, you can see the count of free mirrored blocks.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Xishi Qiu <qiuxishi@...wei.com>
>>>
>>> My fear about this approarch is that this may break something existing.
>>>
>>> Now, when we add MIGRATE_MIRROR type, we'll hide attributes of pageblocks as
>>> MIGRATE_UNMOVABOLE, MIGRATE_RECLAIMABLE, MIGRATE_MOVABLE.
>>>
>>> Logically, MIRROR attribute is independent from page mobility and this overwrites
>>> will make some information lost.
>>>
>>> Then,
>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>    include/linux/mmzone.h | 9 +++++++++
>>>>    mm/page_alloc.c        | 3 +++
>>>>    mm/vmstat.c            | 3 +++
>>>>    3 files changed, 15 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/mmzone.h b/include/linux/mmzone.h
>>>> index 54d74f6..54e891a 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/mmzone.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/mmzone.h
>>>> @@ -39,6 +39,9 @@ enum {
>>>>        MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE,
>>>>        MIGRATE_RECLAIMABLE,
>>>>        MIGRATE_MOVABLE,
>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_MEMORY_MIRROR
>>>> +    MIGRATE_MIRROR,
>>>> +#endif
>>>
>>> I think
>>>          MIGRATE_MIRROR_UNMOVABLE,
>>>          MIGRATE_MIRROR_RECLAIMABLE,
>>>          MIGRATE_MIRROR_MOVABLE,         <== adding this may need discuss.
>>>          MIGRATE_MIRROR_RESERVED,        <== reserved pages should be maintained per mirrored/unmirrored.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Kame,
>>
>> You mean add 3 or 4 new migratetype?
>>
> 
> yes. But please check how NR_MIGRATETYPE_BITS will be.
> I think this will not have big impact in x86-64 .
> 
>>> should be added with the following fallback list.
>>>
>>> /*
>>>   * MIRROR page range is defined by firmware at boot. The range is limited
>>>   * and is used only for kernel memory mirroring.
>>>   */
>>> [MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE_MIRROR]   = {MIGRATE_RECLAIMABLE_MIRROR, MIGRATE_RESERVE}
>>> [MIGRATE_RECLAIMABLE_MIRROR] = {MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE_MIRROR, MIGRATE_RESERVE}
>>>
>>
>> Why not like this:
>> {MIGRATE_RECLAIMABLE_MIRROR, MIGRATE_MIRROR_RESERVED, MIGRATE_RESERVE}
>>
> 
>  My mistake.
> [MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE_MIRROR]   = {MIGRATE_RECLAIMABLE_MIRROR, MIGRATE_RESERVE_MIRROR}
> [MIGRATE_RECLAIMABLE_MIRROR] = {MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE_MIRROR, MIGRATE_RESERVE_MIRROR}
> 
> was my intention. This means mirrored memory and unmirrored memory is separated completely.
> 
> But this should affect kswapd or other memory reclaim logic.
> 
> for example, kswapd stops free pages are more than hi watermark.
> But mirrored/unmirrored pages exhausted cases are not handled in this series.
> You need some extra check in memory reclaim logic if you go with migration_type.
> 

OK, I understand. Thank you for your suggestion.

Thanks,
Xishi Qiu

> 
> 
>>> Then, we'll not lose the original information of "Reclaiable Pages".
>>>
>>> One problem here is whteher we should have MIGRATE_RESERVE_MIRROR.
>>>
>>> If we never allow users to allocate mirrored memory, we should have MIGRATE_RESERVE_MIRROR.
>>> But it seems to require much more code change to do that.
>>>
>>> Creating a zone or adding an attribues to zones are another design choice.
>>>
>>
>> If we add a new zone, mirror_zone will span others, I'm worry about this
>> maybe have problems.
> 
> Yes. that's problem. And zoneid bit is very limited resource.
> (....But memory reclaim logic can be unchanged.)
> 
> Anyway, I'd like to see your solution with above changes 1st rather than adding zones.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Kame
> 
> 
> 
> .
> 



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