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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 17:14:06 -0700
From: Casey Leedom <leedom@...lsio.com>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...e.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 5/9] PCI: Add pci_iomap_wc() variants
> On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@...e.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 08:00:48AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>> On Fri, 2015-06-26 at 16:24 +0000, Casey Leedom wrote:
>>> Thanks for looking into this Ben. As it stands now, it seems as
>>> if Write Combined mappings simply aren't supported and/or all
>>> driver writers trying to utilize Write Combined mappings have to
>>> "hand roll" their own solutions which really isn't supportable.
>>>
>>> One thing that might be considered is simply to treat the desire
>>> to utilize the Write Combining hardware as a separate issue and
>>> develop writel_wc(), writeq_wc(), etc.
>
> That seems rather sloppy and cumbersome, its best to just provide the
> infrastructure for initial mapping for an area and let the hardware do it for
> you. With the current design drivers would just use regular read/write on all
> areas and the only thing that will set them apart will be the mapping. With
> what you propose we'd end up having to shift a whole bunch of reads/writes for
> just the purpose of adding WC to an area that didn't have wc before. That's
> a waste of code and time.
>
>>> Those could be defined
>>> as legal only for Write Combined Mappings and would "do the
>>> right thing" for each architecture.
>
> Yuck.
Yeah, probably. But it sounds like from Ben’s response, we should really use write_relaxed() as an already existing API for this. But most of the architectures just define this as writel() so some work would need to be done to get it to work.
>> The question then is what is "the right thing". In the powerpc case,
>> we'll have a non-garded mapping, which means we also get no ordering
>> between load and stores.
>
> I don't follow, you *ordering* between load and stores for WC? We should
> not need that for WC, its why WC is used for only very specific things
> such as framebuffer and PIO (which BTw I still don't quite get all this
> use case for infiniband to be honest, and I will note I do see some
> proprietary hardware extensions like bursts but nothing covering all
> this in a general doc, I think I think it all just has to do that this
> is a hardware hack in reality, which we sell as a feature).
I was talking about the work that our drivers (cxgb4, cxgb4vf, etc.) do to ensure correct ordering between writes to memory and I/O space. For instance, issuing a wmb() between writes to a DMA buffer and the write to a register telling the hardware that the data is available. This isn’t necessary on the Strongly Ordered Intel architectures but is necessary on other architectures.
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