linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] x86/kconfig/32: Mark CONFIG

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Message-ID: <CAGXu5jJB-fvqJYH8OXuTHfY5m7BFi1ounuEOBDB-Yt=sc9fM8A@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 8 Jul 2015 11:48:56 -0700
From:	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...ux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@...nel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/kconfig/32: Mark CONFIG_VM86 as BROKEN

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> wrote:
>>
>> I don't know how to tell whether something is trying to use real mode,
>> but I can play this just fine in DOSEMU on my 64-bit laptop:
>
> So a 64-bit distro obviously will never have used vm86 mode - it
> doesn't work there. Never has. There's no sane way to get to vm86 mode
> from long mode, that's just how the 64-bit extensions worked.
>
> (64-bit hardware obviously does support vm86 mode, but you have to
> play games with mixing long mode and CPL0 32-bit protected mode to get
> there, and we never did that).
>
> It's the 32-bit distros I would worry about. The ones that may have
> well disabled emulation, because they have vm86 mode enabled.

Speaking as the dosemu maintainer in Debian and Ubuntu, I can confirm
what Andy mentioned: dosemu will kick over to emulation if SYS_vm86
and SYS_vm86old fail. The other area I remember that used vm86 mode
was non-KMS Xorg drivers and anything using svgalib that tried to do
video card BIOS initialization.

Also, Andy, I think you weren't looking at i386 builds of Ubuntu.
Current Ubuntu, and 12.04 ("Precise") LTS (supported until 2017), and
14.04 LTS (until 2019) releases all have CONFIG_VM86.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Chrome OS Security
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